I'm on both I like the no downvote thing it seemed to make people debate here more and basically communicate their perspective it for some reason turned for the worse lately but still decent content and I ask questions like the help for my hamburger and got some good insightful replies. I was not a qtard but I am highly suspicious of the hate and brigade style troll shill attacks against the qtards made me start thinking maybe it was real.. but God damn the crench guy is a total bitch. Anyways hope this doesn't keep going down the reddit route