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Regan;

Turned California blue through illegal immigration (which never ended)

Started the Middle East wars that never ended

Created no fault divorce and ended the family unit as we know it

Gave amnesty to corporations to destroy our working class

Wrote what would become NAFTA

Reagan was a shit President

Lincoln;

Destroyed the constitution

Destroyed states rights

Declared war on state sovereignty

Helped establish what would become the Federal Reserve (aka the IRS)

Killed hundreds of thousands of Americans simply to make banks rich

The only good thing Lincoln had was emigration plans for after the illegal war against the South.

A nationalist party will happen and the only way to proceed from here. Democracy has died most people just haven’t noticed yet. There is good or evil and people need to pick a side

Regan; Turned California blue through illegal immigration (which never ended) Started the Middle East wars that never ended Created no fault divorce and ended the family unit as we know it Gave amnesty to corporations to destroy our working class Wrote what would become NAFTA Reagan was a shit President Lincoln; Destroyed the constitution Destroyed states rights Declared war on state sovereignty Helped establish what would become the Federal Reserve (aka the IRS) Killed hundreds of thousands of Americans simply to make banks rich The only good thing Lincoln had was emigration plans for after the illegal war against the South. A nationalist party will happen and the only way to proceed from here. Democracy has died most people just haven’t noticed yet. There is good or evil and people need to pick a side

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Both the Federal Reserve and the IRS were established in the 1910's, a couple decades after Lincoln was dead, so I'm not sure how you're connecting that to him. Besides that, I agree with you on Lincoln.

But to say that Reagan, for all his many faults, was worse than FDR? I dunno man, seems like an easy choice to me. I'll agree with you on Wilson as well, though.

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Lincoln established the "Green Backs" which was a central bank currency a pre-cursor to the Federal Reserve.

Reagan was 100% worse than FDR and here is why. Reagan didn't do a fucking thing that he promised. FDR accomplished EVERYTHING he promised. Reagan was a mega cuck. He betrayed the Right Wing. FDR emboldened the left wing.

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FDR did accomplish much of his promises, but he was a banker-backed left-wing politician, so accomplishing his promises isn't a good thing. The New Deal and the Brain Trust alone are enough to put FDR in the top 10 worst presidents.

But he didn't accomplish all his campaign promises. He initially ran as an anti-war candidate, then did everything he could do to justify getting into WW2. That was probably the biggest disaster of the 20th century, and our entire society changed on the basis of the story we've been sold about that war.

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I’m not arguing about the merits of FDR...logically without the colossal fuck up that is Lincoln we never would have had FDR.

Though inevitably FDR assassinated his Republican opponent so he would have happened regardless. Lincoln though from a Republican stand point is not a model character which is my point. All Republican icons are scum.

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There was no taxation in US before IRS ?

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That's a low IQ response, try again

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No its not. I have no idea what was happening in US in 19th century with taxation, and you, as much smarter example of human being than myself, could gracefully give some historical background as you are the one who started topic.

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Prior to the establishment of a federal income tax, taxes were levied at the federal level via tariffs (states varied). So, importers paid the US government a fee on goods which they usually passed along to their customers, mostly rural whites in the south.

The Morrill Tariff was a key reason why the Confederate States of America seceded. Lincoln and his fellow Whigs had been driving for a massive punitive tariff to be leveraged on all foreign goods in order to aid the wealthy jew industrialists who helped make him rich during his years as a dirty corporate attorney. The jew importers in the south, for their part, resisted the tariff because it would hurt their sales.

In the end, it was once again jew vs jew and whites died for it.

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What are these emigration plans you speak of? From what I've read about Lincoln, he wasn't a particular fan of the American Colonial Society. As for Reagan, his father was an alcoholic and his mother a protestant suffragette. He was a lost boy long before he entered into his adult years. He developed Alzheimer's dementia because he couldn't handle reality, which might explain why he became an actor.

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As for Reagan, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was drugged/poisoned to become senile. Remember, this was the same administration that refused to bomb Iran when Reagan ordered a strike.

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Interesting, but given the fluid-ic nature of politics, that Lincoln couldn't make a go of a forced expulsion of former slaves speaks volumes of the time. Americans would've seen it as anti-Christian to do so. I also recall reading about Marcus Garvey's efforts to get blacks to relocate to Liberia in the early part of the 20th century, and the elites weren't too keen on it when he took it upon himself to bypass their people and open direct lines of communication with leaders of the KKK.

As for Reagan, he's a bit more complex because I know Nancy Reagan came from an old blood American elite family. While I expect that the administrative and bureaucratic body of the government was compromised long before he became president. I think they likely encouraged him to run for office because his wife, being a member of the Bolling family, was one of them, and given his declining mental state, they knew they could manipulate him through her easily. It would also explain the friction between them and their kids.

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Interesting insight on Reagan.

Though going back to Lincoln I’m not even sure he existed at this rate. One of these days take a deep dive on Civil War photos, you’ll be shocked to know 98% of them are fake/photo manipulated. Including Lincoln’s. Another strike on Lincoln is he rigged and stole the Presidential election twice.

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What have you been smoking and where can I buy some.