At this point if you are getting either it is on you. It's all so tiresome. You can't save those who don't want to be saved. What we need is a way to organize with like minded people. What we need to be concerned about is why it is so damn hard to do that. The jews are undoubtably subverting those efforts. Very odd that there are never any posts on here about active groups and organizations until there is some news about how the jews have distroyed it.