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“You know, they’ve had people working for them for years. And we’re going to do something … we’re going to sort of put the farmers in charge,” Trump told the crowd of people in attendance.

And by "farmers" he means (((industrial farming corporations))).

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I’m not sure about this

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Up here in the sticks we have large multi generational Apple Orchards, blueberry fields, potato fields, some broccoli/cabbage/cauliflower farms and more. These aren't multinational corporations, but when the produce is ready to be picked, there is no waiting else the crop goes to seed or rots.

Local orchards have relied on import labor as far back as I remember. It is short term and when an orchard is picked, they promptly move onto the next orchard, and the next. Can't use kids because they are in school when the apples are ripe. Blueberry raking on the other hand does employ local kids and adults looking for a side gig and the kids are available because it is during summer vacation. Raking blueberry is also back breaking work.

Most of the family potato farms are in central and northern Maine, they used to have kids start school in August so they could take a few weeks off to pick potatoes after the farmers turn over the mounds in the fall. I'm not sure if they still do that or if advances in farm equipment has eliminated the need.

Regardless, workers have to be ready, willing and able to pick the produce when the produce is ready. It's hard, back breaking labor and doesn't pay much. I don't think today's kids will want anything to do with it nor be top performers. I think the large family farms and corporations don't have much choice unless the end customer wants to pay more to make up for increased spoilage, increased labor costs and lower productivity of using American kids and adults.

Hay fields are a great local observation as far as today's kids. When we were kids we used to have to help hay the fields 2x a year. Hot, sweaty, itchy work. Thank God the fields were fairly small in my area. Now, one guy gets a fancy baler and field owners pay him to bale their hay, often wrapping it so it doesn't need to go in the hay loft either. I seldom see haying the old fashioned way anymore. Kids today don't know how easy they have it.

TBH, nobody really wants to do that dead end back breaking work when higher paying alternatives, many with a brighter future, exist.

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TBH, nobody really wants to do that dead end back breaking work when higher paying alternatives, many with a brighter future, exist.

ROBOTS! you retarded nigger.

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Maybe. A business could buy a bunch of reprogrammable robots and take them around to pick the produce. Expensive up front costs.

Then reprogrammable robot farm equipment operators that the farmers can afford for year round work to work the fields.

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Ask yourself what percentage of farms Bill Gates owns? Look it up and I'll wait. Now add china to that.

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You view a farmer like a broke nigger. Most are corporations with more money than I could visualize. Maybe you're smarter than me. IDK.

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I don't think today's kids will want anything to do with it nor be top performers

Jesus Christ, please stop with the fucking boomer talk.

Even if your accusations against white teenage boys were true it's the job of their elders and business leaders to make them employable. Not replace them with savages.

Just pay them and let them skip social studies or holocaust class. They'll work so they can afford xbox and dates.

If a business (even a "family farm") needs to import shit skin rapists to survive then it should just die.

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I'm all for hiring teens or young unemployed Americans for hard farm work, it builds character. In my boomer youth, there were A LOT of teens in the potential labor pool and no Xbox distraction. However, the fundamental goal here is to get the produce picked and processed when it is ready, else the food chain gets fucked up, farms could fail and people could starve. That strikes me as potentially creating a national emergency as a byproduct of a mandated social change. I don't think there are a sufficient number of available teens in the big farm areas to start with, let alone willing to do that farm work. I worked construction for my Dad. I was not available for farm jobs. I'm sure many other teens work in their Dad's businesses during school vacations for spending money and to learn skills. Years ago kids would develop entrepreneurial skills, going around the neighborhood mowing lawns, asking neighbors if there was any yard work or other tasks they could do for money. In the 1990s/2000s there were high school kids creating simple business websites for money, fulfilling a need as businesses jumped in line to gain a web presence. I'd love to be flipping a kid $25 every couple of weeks to mow my lawn. I can't find any ambitious takers.

I'm not into social experiments when it comes to feeding the nation. A slow migration away from immigrant farm labor into willing teen labor sounds like a better path to me, minimal jeopardy to the food chain, we will get to see how well that works out and adjust course as necessary without creating a national food crisis through the elimination of all migrant farm labor with the stroke of a pen. I think it's dangerous and by the time we realize it was a mistake it will be too late to save those crops.

I'm not a big farmer with big farmer issues, I've had a small 60x70 garden and know when something is ripe it needs to get picked immediately or it will go to seed, rot on the vine, become too mature. No putting it off. If I see bugs I know they need to be addressed or in mere days those plants will be infested. I know I need to get out there and water them when lack of rain causes leaves to start to wilt. The farm labor force must be ready to spring into action or the crop may be lost.

I strongly disagree with Trump on Leisure industry migrant labor cut outs. Nobody is going to starve if they all get the boot and the industry will recover through educating young Americans in the skills/attitude necessary to fulfill the needs of the leisure industry. Trump is far more aware of that industry's needs than I am, but I don't see any significant impact to America if we just booted the migrants servicing that industry.

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You're at best a jew, at best. "Hiring" you mean turning into wage slaves at 14 years old? That's what you want? Because 40 years ago White teenagers would work on farms all summer long, not pay taxes, get paid good cash and that would tide them over for the other 9 months. You bring zero solutions. You only want White genocide through White replacement.

but muh food gets fucked up

Good. Get rid of every nonWhite from the US, the country will be down to 165 million people and we won't have many mouths to feed. Stop sending any food out of the US to feed niggers ,kikes, nips, gooks, chinks or whatever flavor of nigger.