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Driving to meet my lady, I’m listening to the radio, which I rarely do anymore. On one of the breaks they had one of those MSM news updates.

MSM proceeds to tell this story where they claim the Ukrainians have discovered a collection of dead and tortured civilians.

I just roll my eyes.

I’m not saying Vlad is a “good” guy, but he’s also not stupid. It benefits him NOTHING to “torture and kill” civilians…in fact, it would have the opposite effect. We all know this.

So that only leaves a handful of culprits if it wasn’t the Russian military.

We all know who those are.

Larger point being, they are doing everything they can do condition us into accepting a war with Russia. I’m relatively insulated from the bullshit propaganda, but this just reinforced to me how much the gaslighting is in effect. Disgusting.

Driving to meet my lady, I’m listening to the radio, which I rarely do anymore. On one of the breaks they had one of those MSM news updates. MSM proceeds to tell this story where they claim the Ukrainians have discovered a collection of dead and tortured civilians. I just roll my eyes. I’m not saying Vlad is a “good” guy, but he’s also not stupid. It benefits him NOTHING to “torture and kill” civilians…in fact, it would have the opposite effect. We all know this. So that only leaves a handful of culprits if it wasn’t the Russian military. We all know who those are. Larger point being, they are doing everything they can do condition us into accepting a war with Russia. I’m relatively insulated from the bullshit propaganda, but this just reinforced to me how much the gaslighting is in effect. Disgusting.

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Larger point being, they are doing everything they can do condition us into accepting a war with Russia.

Welcome to Propaganda 101.

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It was cringy enough to see how relatively intelligent people mindlessly obeyed all the covid hype.

Now the Ukraine believers are giving the cv-cultists a run for their money.

Just blindly accepting whatever direction the msm tells them to walk after spinning them in circles.

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Great post, yes to everything..

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Agreed. Honestly, I'm shocked, I shouldn't be but I am, at some of the folks I know who are believing this shit.. especially the even fewer I actively congregate with that know the MSM was and still is lying about covid, hunter, etc... now they all of sudden belive the news. Drives me fucking nuts

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Ahh yes..the attitude of “I know the MSM lies, but but but they’re not lying about this.”

Newsflash: they lie about EVERYTHING, especially this.

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Reminder - NO openly public war has started from the US since at least WW2 without a false flag premise before it.

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What about Vietnam? I wasn’t old enough to remember the start of US involvement.

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  • that was called The gulf of Tonkin incident. That was the false flag which started the Vietnam War officially for the USA. Do a search for more info, but that's the short version.
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Getting caught over and over throwing non stop shit false flags and straight up lies in to the fan seeing if anything sticks to the wall.

And this is coming from the "MSM", that already has it's credibility so far down the shit hole it created a black hole and ate itself over 3 times over.

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It's hard to know for sure who is doing what to whom, but it's beginning to look as though the Ukrainian military are torturing and murdering both Russians and Ukrainians. The Uks seem to be the bad guys in this war. That's my take on it. Putin seems to be behaving in a civilized manner. But there is a blizzard of propaganda, most of it anti-Russian.

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Putins propaganda is simple.

Win hearts and minds of Ukrainians.

And how he does that is simple.

Be good and kind to them.

No lies. No fake news. Just actually give aid and protection

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And not destroy their roads, bridges water, waste, power, and internet infrastructure in the first 24 hours of the invasion.

This point gets missed by all the normies. If Putin played by American rules he would have flattened the civilian infrastructure within the first couple days.

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Leaving open refugee corridors even when they get abused by the enemy

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Exactly. Gaslight into war.

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Think I saw a post/story about that somewhere. Supposed mass graves of Ukranians supposedly killed by Russians. But, it doesn't pass the sniff test, there's no reason for the Russians to do that and every reason for the Ukranians to either do it or stage it. Truth is the first casualty of war. The media, all over the world, including a large number of people who have not fallen for other tales (COVID, Climate catastrphemergency, etc) seem to have bought the "Putin man bad" story hook line and sinker.

We are well into World War 3, but it's a fifth generation war, primarily fought through propaganda. When there is apparent military action reported, you can not be certain if what is reported bears any resemblance to what actually happened, if anything happened at all. This war is fought primarily by governments and corporate interests against the citizens of their countries. Normal people, working people, and particularly white western working people are the primary targets of this war. Most of them are not even aware that they are under attack, and many have had their minds corrupted in such a way that they actively fight against their own people.

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Noooo

The fifth Gen warfare was multiculturalism, feminism, equality, lgbtp, socialism etc

This is straight up third Gen warfare to mass destroy lives and wealth. Just Like what happened in ww1

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This is fake news propaganda

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Yellow journalism.

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Folks around here have spent the last week or so seeing pics of Ukrainians taped to poles and beaten by Ukrainians for not being Ukrainian enough. Jews gonna jew.

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