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I've been in Poland a few days and already I notice huge problems with the Ukrainian narrative. I don't think most people notice because they've swallowed the media hype.

  1. The Ukrainians look like tourists, not refugees. Walking around Warsaw, I hear about 40% of the people speaking in Ukrainian. These Ukrainians are anything but poor. The girls are wearing designer perfume, sporting designer bags, wearing designer clothes, laughing like they're on vacation. They have boyfriends with them too. Did I mention they all have iPhones? They certainly don't appear to have any issues adapting to Polish life.
  2. At almost every corner is a young Ukrainian cute girl wearing a Ukrainian flag on her shoulders, carrying a nice bag with propaganda about why I should donate to help these poor Ukrainians. Interesting that every one of these Ukrainians soliciting donations is a young cute girl about 20 years old. I asked each of them several questions about where they were from, who they worked for and where they were living. I spoke to them in English to see how many languages they knew. Their English was much better than I expected. Their Polish was also better than I expected. These donation workers are simply not volunteers trying to raise money for refugees. This is a highly organized business. These girls have been trained and vetted. I noticed the questions I asked caused them to pause, they weren't trained to answer my questions but they told me they worked for some "organization". They lived with local families in the area. They claimed they were going home in a few months. I'm not quite sure how they knew this. I wanted to ask more questions but decided to spend my time asking the other solicitors the same questions.
  3. Ukrainian flags were everywhere: on most government buildings and private homes. I noticed a lack of EU flags. Where the EU flag used to be was a Ukrainian flag. It's only a matter of time as Polish flags give way to the Ukrainian flag. I've only seen this in California where the Mexican flag is dominant in Los Angels.
  4. I talked to local residents and mentioned all what I just wrote. They were very happy I noticed this. They said they try to explain to their friends this displacement of local Polish people, and like the vaccines, they cannot understand what's going on.

Other things I noticed was Warsaw is now a tourist city: few local people live there. , rents in the city are driving residents out and corporations are buying property and renting out their property on AirBnB. Local businesses are being displaced by luxury goods shops like Gucci, Coach and so on.

No, the story the locals hear about Ukraine is very different from reality. The donations remind me more of Black Lives Matter, Hall of Cost reparations and virtue signaling. Many businesses virtue signal about Ukraine. It's sad and sick. I've been extremely careful not to explain my position here because it would certainly trigger many people. I'm carefully observing how the Ukrainian narrative is playing out.

I've been in Poland a few days and already I notice huge problems with the Ukrainian narrative. I don't think most people notice because they've swallowed the media hype. 1. The Ukrainians look like tourists, not refugees. Walking around Warsaw, I hear about 40% of the people speaking in Ukrainian. These Ukrainians are anything but poor. The girls are wearing designer perfume, sporting designer bags, wearing designer clothes, laughing like they're on vacation. They have boyfriends with them too. Did I mention they all have iPhones? They certainly don't appear to have any issues adapting to Polish life. 2. At almost every corner is a young Ukrainian cute girl wearing a Ukrainian flag on her shoulders, carrying a nice bag with propaganda about why I should donate to help these poor Ukrainians. Interesting that every one of these Ukrainians soliciting donations is a young cute girl about 20 years old. I asked each of them several questions about where they were from, who they worked for and where they were living. I spoke to them in English to see how many languages they knew. Their English was much better than I expected. Their Polish was also better than I expected. These donation workers are simply not volunteers trying to raise money for refugees. This is a highly organized business. These girls have been trained and vetted. I noticed the questions I asked caused them to pause, they weren't trained to answer my questions but they told me they worked for some "organization". They lived with local families in the area. They claimed they were going home in a few months. I'm not quite sure how they knew this. I wanted to ask more questions but decided to spend my time asking the other solicitors the same questions. 3. Ukrainian flags were everywhere: on most government buildings and private homes. I noticed a lack of EU flags. Where the EU flag used to be was a Ukrainian flag. It's only a matter of time as Polish flags give way to the Ukrainian flag. I've only seen this in California where the Mexican flag is dominant in Los Angels. 4. I talked to local residents and mentioned all what I just wrote. They were very happy I noticed this. They said they try to explain to their friends this displacement of local Polish people, and like the vaccines, they cannot understand what's going on. Other things I noticed was Warsaw is now a tourist city: few local people live there. [Like Venice](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/sep/13/occupy-venice-alternative-to-death-of-city-activists-tourism), rents in the city are driving residents out and corporations are buying property and renting out their property on AirBnB. Local businesses are being displaced by luxury goods shops like Gucci, Coach and so on. No, the story the locals hear about Ukraine is very different from reality. The donations remind me more of Black Lives Matter, Hall of Cost reparations and virtue signaling. Many businesses virtue signal about Ukraine. It's sad and sick. I've been extremely careful not to explain my position here because it would certainly trigger many people. I'm carefully observing how the Ukrainian narrative is playing out.

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[–] • 9 pts

I'm coming back from Spain where I was on holidays. I was in the region of Alicante. It's mind boggling to see how many Russians and Ukrainians are living there. They have groceries shops, banks, real estate showrooms, hairdressers, etc etc advertising in the streets in Russian and Ukrainian. Shop signs not even in Spanish, only their language. many Russian and Ukrainian flags hanging from their see view apartments. They have their cars their, they have all the luxurious lifestyle, and I didn't see animosity between the two. Really weird. I thought men of age were requested to stay in Ukraine.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

Would you want to stay and die for the Jews? All young men with sense have been taking any opportunities to escape.

[–] • 4 pts

Exactly. I forgot to mention that I heard a lot of Russian being spoken as well. But no Russian flags, yet.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

I thought they hated Russians and anyone who spoke the Russian language. They call them moscal of whatever. That wasn't an issue?

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No. Apparently, the new generation of Polish citizens are affected by MKUltra mind control just like Americans. Many took the Pfizer shots and donate their homes to the Ukrainians. Sad.

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Don't give anybody any money. It's a massive scam. None of it is traced, tracked, or legitimate. When Zelenskyy does eventually flee Ukraine, he will have MANSIONS upon MANSIONS in foreign countries to flee to. You can take that to the bank because it's true.

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Zelensky had nearly a billion in cash and assets, including luxury property in Florida and London before the Russian invasion. Totally corrupt.

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Hell no! I think it is Zogs collecting the money, just like BLM.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

The Ukrainians look like tourists, not refugees. Walking around Warsaw, I hear about 40% of the people speaking in Ukrainian. These Ukrainians are anything but poor. The girls are wearing designer perfume, sporting designer bags, wearing designer clothes, laughing like they're on vacation. They have boyfriends with them too. Did I mention they all have iPhones? They certainly don't appear to have any issues adapting to Polish life.

The poorer Ukrainians don't have the resources to make it to the border, nor do they want to leave where they live. The ones who live in the country have chickens, ducks and pigs and you can't just up and leave that all behind. It's the well-off ones, the ones who live in Kiev (where there is no fighting) who are all too eager to make it over to Poland and live there on someone else's dime.

[–] • 2 pts

Same shit here in Western Europe.

One person I know said he talked to one of the rich Jewkranians and was told that you have to pay 10 000 Euros at the border if you want to get out of the country and avoid the draft.

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Jewkranians

Thanks. I'll be using that one.

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Other things I noticed was Warsaw is now a tourist city: few local people live there. Like Venice, rents in the city are driving residents out and corporations are buying property and renting out their property on AirBnB. Local businesses are being displaced by luxury goods shops like Gucci, Coach and so on.

Literally Tennessee.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

OP sounds like an total and utter idiot.

He complains, that ukrainian refugees are cute girls from families that were functional enough to allow them to earn some wealth in the poorest european country, where an iphone costs you several average monthly wages. He complains that they're well educated enough to speak several languages "better than he expected" and that they're apparently not trying to get government gibs forever, but are trying to help their country and are saying that they'll soon leave, and some even seemingly have local boyfriends.

Maybe the "refugees" germany has received would be more to OP's liking. Maybe he wants mostly male, poor, ugly, IQ-80 shitskin parasites that don't speak any language at any level of competency other than their local sandnigger-accent even other sandniggers don't understand, and that do nothing but pray to their shitskin-prophet, maximize their welfare-income and breed more shitskin larvae, because they think that this way they will never get kicked out.

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"They certainly don't appear to have any issues adapting to Polish life" "Interesting that every one of these Ukrainians soliciting donations is a young cute girl about 20 years old" "Their English was much better than I expected. Their Polish was also better than I expected" "I noticed a lack of EU flags"

These are all good things, no? If a refugee population can integrate into the existing culture, is that always a bad thing? It sounds more like the Irish and Italian immigrants to the 19th century United States or Indians of 19th/20th century England, and less like the Mexicans and South Americans of the 21st century United States or the Africans and Arabs of 21st century France/Germany.

With that said, OP could be correct that it all is just one big scam. Two things can be true at once.

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True, and I'm sure that there's a lot of scamming going on, and of course there's always the risk of someone once legit getting greedy, because they really rake in some large donations. Bayraktars are expensive, and they managed to buy many of them just with the money random people have donated. Regardless, what OP describes is exactly how a well-run project actually would look like, and if he'd ask for a reason why they're legit, op would likely get an answer that's superior to the "we're some NGO that's in bed with hostile foreign governments and take 90% of your donations to pay for bureaucrats and marketing agencies" he'd get with any other refugee-stuff or humanitarian relief.

He even holds it against them, that they're using good-looking and well-educated females to talk to people. I.e. people from the social group that's the least likely to be used to scamming, and that have had to flee from an actual war of aggression by the soviet army. I bet that if I'd browse through his posting-history, I'd find comments where he pretends that being held in some hostage-camp in russia or having to live in some half-destroyed building without water and under shitskin-russian occupation is nothing to flee from. Like "Being liberated by proud russian army, which has absolutely no history of mass-rape, mass-murder, and horrific abuse of everything and everyone that can be abused, their own soldiers included" is nothing to flee from and should be embraced, or something.

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The media lies.

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I don't even consider MSM as sources.

Why don't you go to germany, and enjoy the presence of some proper refugees, if the white european female ones aren't to your liking. Or maybe go east, I heard in Donbabwe they're still looking for men for their Volkssturm. A fren of mine lives there. He hasn't left the house in months, because he doesn't want to get kidnapped to be drafted and die as cannonfodder. Maybe you could go in his place. They'd even give you a Mosin-Nagant to share with the five other involuntary draftees in your little squad.

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They sound like the roma bitches who plague Europe. Its a complete crime syndicate and no elected officials care. But hey at least the Ukrainian girls are cute.

[–] • 1 pt

Yes, many of them wear see through clothes. Pretty interesting.

[–] • 1 pt

Scream "NiggerFaggot" as loud as you possibly can. Pretty please?

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So conquering Poland is actually a side product. I know a polish girl in the states and she repeatedly complained of Ukrainians essentially invading Poland. And that was before the war.

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Didn't realize Poland was so politically cuckolded. Too bad.

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My polish girl-friend says just Friday how they are constantly bombarded with gays are unfortunate and victims on tv and tons lap it up.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Sterilize those White Polish beauties! Make 'em homos and frankenhomos. . Ugh.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

That's funny because I remember reading stories how Poland was going conservative last year and like Hungary or some east European country were making LGBTlmnop exiled. Now flooded with gays, sounds like they are having their own invasion but instead of brown people it's the pink people.

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Correct. I suspect the jews will leave Israel and move to Ukraine at some point. Just watch.

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Those are female kikes

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[–] • 3 pts

Wait! The Russian military isn't full of LGBT people?

That's cheating!

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The US army no longer has special forces because it was renamed to special needs forces since the entire army is full of mentally ill trannies and homos.

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Nobody needs special forces. This operator-mentality exists, because the state wants that the smallest possible amount of people ending up getting some actual killing-experience, because vets that are ready and willing to kill always cause problems. So best minimize their number, and have all of them first go through all kinds of psychological and ideological tests that filter out anyone that might end up with a cause on the other side. That's what special forces and commando-type are there for.units have been set up

I guarantee you, that with everything else being equal, some Waffen-SS unit made up of 19yos, that joined to fight in a war after finishing school, that were raised as soldiers from early on, and that have survived on the eastern front for a couple of months, would wipe the floor with any "special forces" tacticool /k/ommando-unit that was ever envisioned, assuming that both sides get the same equipment.

You can see this in Ukraine, where a lot of those former western snipers and special forces just ran away after experiencing their first airstrike or their first day of shelling, or where those russian special forces, that were attacking airfields, were obliterated within one day. You can even read the Afghan Papers, to find plenty of examples where a handful of people in flipflops with an AK47, a couple of magazines and maybe a handgrenade or two managed to massacre entire Navy-Seals units just because they weren't taken by surprise and were able to force them to fight during the day, where both sides can actually see what they're shooting at. That's all it takes to take on some special-forces unit.

Special forces are pretty much like the police, they're there trained to raid much weaker and technological inferior opponents with all kinds of super-expensive high-tech gear while being supported by drones, satellites and ground attack airplanes. But they're useless in any kind of conventional warfare, where both sides are on equal terms and are hard pressed. At best they can be used as saboteurs, but so can any local traitor. Oh, btw, the russians didn't just lose pretty much all their highly-trained airborne forces within the first week of combat, they also have sent their , which is pretty much their internal military police which is used as riot-police and swat-teams, which was obliterated as well. Which of course is great, because dead cops can't oppress people.

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