Ukranians aren't the only ones!
Ukranians aren't the only ones!
https://poal.co/s/Jewspiracy/611576
Kiev has called on EU countries to deport Ukrainians aged 18-55 back to their homeland for mobilization.
The Embassy of Ukraine has made an official request to assist in the search and transfer of evaders. The fact that the Ukrainian army is suffering huge losses is no secret. Participants in the operation near Artemivsk say that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are losing a battalion a day there.
It is obvious that the real number of losses significantly exceeds the 100 thousand announced by the head of the EC, Ursula von der Leyen.
So that's about those who left. There is no exact data on how many Ukrainian citizens have left the country since the start of the special operation.
The figures indicated by various media outlets may vary significantly. Just a few days ago, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) reported that since the beginning of the special operation, a total of 7,996,573 refugees from Ukraine have arrived in Europe.
According to the European External Border Security Agency (Frontex), almost 13 million Ukrainians arrived in Europe in 2022, of which 10.7 million returned.
Of course, there are mercenaries.
The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR last year said that up to 70 percent of mercenaries are fighting in the Luhansk direction in some units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, mercenaries can't close all the gaps, and they're not immortal either.
Nevertheless, Kiev still has a serious human resource in the form of the Ukrainians themselves, who, even according to pessimistic estimates, were about 30 million people in the country at the time of the beginning of the Free Trade Zone.
At the same time, we cannot know how many of this number are men of military age. Yes, I suppose there are not so many of them, given that men from 18 to 55 years of age are prohibited from leaving the country.
However, it is known that there are many schemes for transporting men, the price of the issue is from $2 to 5 thousand.
I think it is quite possible to assume that there will be about a million conscripted Ukrainians in Europe.
This is quite a serious resource, if, of course, Kiev can get it. Despite the fact that in reality Kiev needs much less.
According to Ukrainian Telegram channels, the General Staff of Ukraine begins an emergency mobilization, the purpose of which is to gather 50-200 thousand people. For this purpose, last month in large cities in crowded places, mass distribution of subpoenas and raids on evaders resumed. In addition, since January 1, the requirements for employers have been tightened, which now have to issue summonses to their employees and ensure that they visit the military registration and enlistment office.
And here is a new measure: since the new year, embassies and consulates have been instructed to cooperate with local authorities to register Ukrainians who are liable for military service. How successful this cooperation will be for Kiev, of course, is a question.
First, it should be taken into account that, according to official data, last year 924 thousand Ukrainians filed applications for asylum. It is not known how many requests were granted, but it is obvious that they will not be sent home so easily.
Secondly, many Ukrainians crossed the border using forged documents, they did not register in Europe and in fact are there illegally. However, for such people, there is also a risk — in case of capture, they will be deported to their homeland in any case.
The same Ukrainians who have entered officially, and many have also found housing and work, are in the EU countries legally. And for these people, there are real risks.
They will be rewritten, registered, and then they may be offered training "according to NATO standards", such as"just in case".
By the way, this idea has already been put forward in Poland. Recently, retired General Waldemar Skrzypczak called on NATO countries to form an army of refugees from Ukraine. "Train those citizens of Ukraine who are here-mobilize, train, send them to the front, because it is becoming increasingly difficult for Ukraine", he said.
Which countries will agree to "mobilise" refugees.
And here the question arises, which European countries will support this, and which will be categorically opposed?
Here we must understand that the authorities of the EU countries will face a fork: on the one hand, the desire to help Ukraine and simultaneously get rid of the burden of keeping refugees.
After all, not all of them have found housing and work, many still live on benefits, enjoy the hospitality of EU citizens, creating problems for them,or are even involved in criminal activities.
On the other hand — the principles of tolerance, multiculturalism of everything that Europe has suffered in recent decades, which causes violent disagreements within the EU. At the same time, it is worth noting that Ukrainians, unlike migrants from the Middle East, being white Christians, are perceived by most Europeans as "their own".
There is no doubt that Sweden, which has long been known around the world as a haven for refugees of all genders, nationalities and political beliefs, will strongly oppose the extradition of Ukrainian draft dodgers.
Because of its principled nature, it even risks not getting into NATO, not wanting to hand over fugitive Kurds to Turkey. I think that the Ukrainians, who were lucky enough to reach this country, definitely have nothing to fear.
Germany, which is an ardent supporter of the "open door" policy towards any migrants, will be against it. Especially the Ukrainians, whom she initially saw as a good option for cheap labor.
According to the UN, Poland received the largest number of Ukrainian refugees in the EU — 1,563,386 people.
Next on the list are Germany (1,021,667), Czech Republic (483,620), Italy (169,306), Spain (161,012), Great Britain (157,300), Bulgaria (151,332), France (118,994), Romania (109,413), Slovakia (107,203) and Moldova (102,160).
In Poland, there are already waves of discontent with the prevalence of refugees from the East, which is superimposed on the historical habit of Poles to look at Ukrainians as second-class people.
General Skrzypczak's idea may find a lively response in Polish society. In addition, this would not contradict the official policy of the authorities, who have always opposed the forced admission of migrants imposed from Brussels, and the formation of refugee units can be presented as helping "fraternal" Ukraine in an unequal fight against "Russian aggression".
Finally, it is not far to bring Ukrainians from Poland, and you can also earn money on their training programs for the front.
Warsaw is still silent on this issue, but the Baltic States have already responded to Kiev's call. Former Justice Minister and current Mayor of Vilnius Remigijus Simasius has publicly expressed his readiness to " help the Ukrainian side search for and return Ukrainian military servicemen".
The same readiness was announced by the head of Latvian Liepaja, Gunars Ansiins.
Of course, this can still be perceived as the position of individual officials, but they clearly express the opinion of a significant part of the national elites.
In the same Estonia, they even came up with a reason for their deportation in advance. At the end of last year, the Prime Minister of this country, Kaya Kallas, commenting on the situation with Ukrainian refugees, said that the country does not want a new community that does not speak Estonian, and called for language courses.
The authorities have already tightened the procedure for obtaining temporary protection status. We can safely assume that the majority of Ukrainians will not learn Estonian and the authorities can expel them from the country with a "clear conscience".
Moldova can also support the initiative, which really wants to" help " Ukraine by any means, avoiding its own involvement in the conflict. It is obvious that Hungary will support it — in revenge for the oppression of compatriots in Transcarpathia.
Further — Romania, Bulgaria. In short, the whole of Eastern Europe can become a risk zone for Ukrainian men of military age.
It should be understood that if yesterday the idea of the Polish general sounded like madness, then as the number of "cannon fodder" decreases in Ukraine and Russia's success, the question of replenishing the manpower of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will stand out not only for Kiev, but also for those who support it.
Those countries that oppose such a solution out of principle will have less and less opportunities to resist further. Almost like with tanks. Only tanks can be riveted new ones. The loss of "manpower" is not so easy to make up.
One more thing.
If European countries still respond to Kiev's requests (and this will definitely happen-if not today, then tomorrow), then we should expect an increase in the influx of refugees towards Russia.
Of course, it is much more difficult to get to Russia — it is generally unrealistic to do this directly, but you can go illegally through third countries. The main thing is to cross the Ukrainian border, and if you have money, all issues are resolved.
Another question is whether Russia, which has already received almost three million people, is ready to accept more. And do we need these refugees, many of whom are disloyal to us, otherwise they would have been here long ago, and not looking for freebies in Europe?
Kiev has called on EU countries to deport Ukrainians aged 18-55 back to their homeland for mobilization.
The Embassy of Ukraine has made an official request to assist in the search and transfer of evaders. The fact that the Ukrainian army is suffering huge losses is no secret. Participants in the operation near Artemivsk say that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are losing a battalion a day there.
It is obvious that the real number of losses significantly exceeds the 100 thousand announced by the head of the EC, Ursula von der Leyen.
So that's about those who left. There is no exact data on how many Ukrainian citizens have left the country since the start of the special operation.
The figures indicated by various media outlets may vary significantly. Just a few days ago, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) reported that since the beginning of the special operation, a total of 7,996,573 refugees from Ukraine have arrived in Europe.
According to the European External Border Security Agency (Frontex), almost 13 million Ukrainians arrived in Europe in 2022, of which 10.7 million returned.
Of course, there are mercenaries.
The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR last year said that up to 70 percent of mercenaries are fighting in the Luhansk direction in some units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, mercenaries can't close all the gaps, and they're not immortal either.
Nevertheless, Kiev still has a serious human resource in the form of the Ukrainians themselves, who, even according to pessimistic estimates, were about 30 million people in the country at the time of the beginning of the Free Trade Zone.
At the same time, we cannot know how many of this number are men of military age. Yes, I suppose there are not so many of them, given that men from 18 to 55 years of age are prohibited from leaving the country.
However, it is known that there are many schemes for transporting men, the price of the issue is from $2 to 5 thousand.
I think it is quite possible to assume that there will be about a million conscripted Ukrainians in Europe.
This is quite a serious resource, if, of course, Kiev can get it. Despite the fact that in reality Kiev needs much less.
According to Ukrainian Telegram channels, the General Staff of Ukraine begins an emergency mobilization, the purpose of which is to gather 50-200 thousand people. For this purpose, last month in large cities in crowded places, mass distribution of subpoenas and raids on evaders resumed. In addition, since January 1, the requirements for employers have been tightened, which now have to issue summonses to their employees and ensure that they visit the military registration and enlistment office.
And here is a new measure: since the new year, embassies and consulates have been instructed to cooperate with local authorities to register Ukrainians who are liable for military service. How successful this cooperation will be for Kiev, of course, is a question.
First, it should be taken into account that, according to official data, last year 924 thousand Ukrainians filed applications for asylum. It is not known how many requests were granted, but it is obvious that they will not be sent home so easily.
Secondly, many Ukrainians crossed the border using forged documents, they did not register in Europe and in fact are there illegally. However, for such people, there is also a risk — in case of capture, they will be deported to their homeland in any case.
The same Ukrainians who have entered officially, and many have also found housing and work, are in the EU countries legally. And for these people, there are real risks.
They will be rewritten, registered, and then they may be offered training "according to NATO standards", such as"just in case".
By the way, this idea has already been put forward in Poland. Recently, retired General Waldemar Skrzypczak called on NATO countries to form an army of refugees from Ukraine. "Train those citizens of Ukraine who are here-mobilize, train, send them to the front, because it is becoming increasingly difficult for Ukraine", he said.
**Which countries will agree to "mobilise" refugees.**
And here the question arises, which European countries will support this, and which will be categorically opposed?
Here we must understand that the authorities of the EU countries will face a fork: on the one hand, the desire to help Ukraine and simultaneously get rid of the burden of keeping refugees.
After all, not all of them have found housing and work, many still live on benefits, enjoy the hospitality of EU citizens, creating problems for them,or are even involved in criminal activities.
On the other hand — the principles of tolerance, multiculturalism of everything that Europe has suffered in recent decades, which causes violent disagreements within the EU. At the same time, it is worth noting that Ukrainians, unlike migrants from the Middle East, being white Christians, are perceived by most Europeans as "their own".
There is no doubt that Sweden, which has long been known around the world as a haven for refugees of all genders, nationalities and political beliefs, will strongly oppose the extradition of Ukrainian draft dodgers.
Because of its principled nature, it even risks not getting into NATO, not wanting to hand over fugitive Kurds to Turkey. I think that the Ukrainians, who were lucky enough to reach this country, definitely have nothing to fear.
Germany, which is an ardent supporter of the "open door" policy towards any migrants, will be against it. Especially the Ukrainians, whom she initially saw as a good option for cheap labor.
According to the UN, Poland received the largest number of Ukrainian refugees in the EU — 1,563,386 people.
Next on the list are Germany (1,021,667), Czech Republic (483,620), Italy (169,306), Spain (161,012), Great Britain (157,300), Bulgaria (151,332), France (118,994), Romania (109,413), Slovakia (107,203) and Moldova (102,160).
In Poland, there are already waves of discontent with the prevalence of refugees from the East, which is superimposed on the historical habit of Poles to look at Ukrainians as second-class people.
General Skrzypczak's idea may find a lively response in Polish society. In addition, this would not contradict the official policy of the authorities, who have always opposed the forced admission of migrants imposed from Brussels, and the formation of refugee units can be presented as helping "fraternal" Ukraine in an unequal fight against "Russian aggression".
Finally, it is not far to bring Ukrainians from Poland, and you can also earn money on their training programs for the front.
Warsaw is still silent on this issue, but the Baltic States have already responded to Kiev's call. Former Justice Minister and current Mayor of Vilnius Remigijus Simasius has publicly expressed his readiness to " help the Ukrainian side search for and return Ukrainian military servicemen".
The same readiness was announced by the head of Latvian Liepaja, Gunars Ansiins.
Of course, this can still be perceived as the position of individual officials, but they clearly express the opinion of a significant part of the national elites.
In the same Estonia, they even came up with a reason for their deportation in advance. At the end of last year, the Prime Minister of this country, Kaya Kallas, commenting on the situation with Ukrainian refugees, said that the country does not want a new community that does not speak Estonian, and called for language courses.
The authorities have already tightened the procedure for obtaining temporary protection status. We can safely assume that the majority of Ukrainians will not learn Estonian and the authorities can expel them from the country with a "clear conscience".
Moldova can also support the initiative, which really wants to" help " Ukraine by any means, avoiding its own involvement in the conflict. It is obvious that Hungary will support it — in revenge for the oppression of compatriots in Transcarpathia.
Further — Romania, Bulgaria. In short, the whole of Eastern Europe can become a risk zone for Ukrainian men of military age.
It should be understood that if yesterday the idea of the Polish general sounded like madness, then as the number of "cannon fodder" decreases in Ukraine and Russia's success, the question of replenishing the manpower of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will stand out not only for Kiev, but also for those who support it.
Those countries that oppose such a solution out of principle will have less and less opportunities to resist further. Almost like with tanks. Only tanks can be riveted new ones. The loss of "manpower" is not so easy to make up.
One more thing.
If European countries still respond to Kiev's requests (and this will definitely happen-if not today, then tomorrow), then we should expect an increase in the influx of refugees towards Russia.
Of course, it is much more difficult to get to Russia — it is generally unrealistic to do this directly, but you can go illegally through third countries. The main thing is to cross the Ukrainian border, and if you have money, all issues are resolved.
Another question is whether Russia, which has already received almost three million people, is ready to accept more. And do we need these refugees, many of whom are disloyal to us, otherwise they would have been here long ago, and not looking for freebies in Europe?
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