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A: Jews.

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The home in the video is the House of Menander, one of the nicest homes in the city. It's unknown to whom this house belonged, but it's thought to have been a relative of Emperor Nero, possibly as a vacation home. No commoners occupied this house except as servants.

The plebian class lived in insulae, usually small apartments that had no sanitation or amenities.

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Yup. This is like pointing at the ruins of Mar-a-Lago in a couple millennia and opining at how opulently people lived "back then".

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It's not to say that a plebian couldn't have a nice home, but it wasn't going to be in a city.

Ex-legion sometimes were granted tracts of land, they could have potentially been a gentleman farmer.

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birddrone network confirms

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We neither confirm or deny that we confirm this is or isn't what we said it was.

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sounds legit

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The average Roman had it worse than your imagination will ever allow. No indoor plumbing in your apartment, or flat, only bath houses or public toilets where you've got to share a sponge on a stick to wipe your genitals. Streets coated in excrement and urine from people and animals with nothing comparable to street cleaners to move it into the sewers. Imagine the stench of your bathroom after someone in the home takes a dump after a spicy meal, then amp that smell up to ten with rancid urine and you might begin to get an idea of what Roman city dwellers had to put up with daily. Mostly narrow streets you couldn't safely travel at night, unless you were the occasional legionnaire patrolling a route during an occupation that were insanely crowded during the day.

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None of that was how you described it.

I can do the same thing. You have no idea how bad it was before the three sea shells were invented. People used to just smear the shit over their ass with paper. Then they walked around like that, sometimes not showering for days or weeks. Imagine the smell and disease.

Not a very accurate picture of reality, is it?

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Nah, he's got it pretty accurate. The average Roman (Plebian) lived in a tenement called an Insula (Insulae.) They had no plumbing or sanitation to speak of, and if you were lucky you had an exhaust vent for cooking. Fire and disease was common. Insulae were often poorly constructed, and built to 9 floors before regulation limited the height. Collapse was the watchword of the day. Some were better than others and offered larger rooms, but you were probably packed in with 400 other people, all with no plumbing.

Public facilities were full of parasites. You bathed and shat with the sick and the well. There's references to ostraca and tersorium being used for wiping ones ass (pottery shards/rocks and the "sponge on a stick") but those are referenced to only marginally in what we know about the time. The sponge was said to be cleaned in a communal bucket of vinegar after use, which doesn't really kill the contamination. People probably used whatever they had to wipe their ass, including hands. Paper would have been far too expensive to use, it's only modern manufacturing scale that allows us to do that.

There were no street cleaning services, so the streets were coated with dog and horse shit, and probably people shit as well for those that didn't want to use the latrines, which sometimes required payment.

If you were a member of the Equestrian or Patrician classes, you could probably afford a domus or a villa (a nicer detached home / country home) or larger insula that had plumbing and other amenities. Legionaries had barracks.

The house in your video was most likely a vacation home for some rich citizen of the City of Rome. Plebian class didn't live there.

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For what it's worth, commonly people did have their own sponge on a stick. Those in the military commonly carrier their own on their waist. Communal buckets, however, were a different issue.

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Multiculturalism happened. That, and in this particular example, a big fucking volcanic blast.

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Before the industrial revolution. Before automation. Before electricity. Before artificial fertilizer. Somehow their society created enough wealth to build gorgeous cities that are literally better than what we live in.

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For every one of these rich man's homes, there were thousands packed into tiny apartments.

It's not really that different from today, except we don't usually die of Cholera here.

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Advanced kikeoetry and nignogeosis.

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WTF happened?

jews... rather pharisees then. judaism, jews is a new thing (relative).

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Rich people live in mansions today, as they did back then. One thing that has definitely changed is construction. The Mcmansions we build now would never last 2000 years.

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jewish usury and subversion

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