Greta is nothing more than a useful idiot to broadcast propaganda. She doesn't understand anything.
Greta is nothing more than a useful idiot to broadcast propaganda. She doesn't understand anything.
Why electric ?
Simple, you can ground an entire nation by switching off electricity
Not the same with gasoline, you can have a few canister of fuel at home that will let you thrive for weeks (in emergency)
Not to mention the "always connected" of Tesla
Slaves, all is planned to make us slaves
Why electric ?
Simple, you can ground an entire nation by switching off electricity
Not the same with gasoline, you can have a few canister of fuel at home that will let you thrive for weeks (in emergency)
Not to mention the "always connected" of Tesla
Slaves, all is planned to make us slaves
Simple, you can ground an entire nation by switching off electricity
You forgot about generators and solar panels.
Not the same with gasoline, you can have a few canister of fuel at home that will let you thrive for weeks (in emergency)
You can have some solar panels that will let you drive electric for years with no grid. Try that with gas.
Not to mention the "always connected" of Tesla
Like GMC cars and trucks. They've been that way for decades. Driving gas cars doesn't protect you from big brother.
> Simple, you can ground an entire nation by switching off electricity
You forgot about generators and solar panels.
> Not the same with gasoline, you can have a few canister of fuel at home that will let you thrive for weeks (in emergency)
You can have some solar panels that will let you drive electric for years with no grid. Try that with gas.
> Not to mention the "always connected" of Tesla
Like GMC cars and trucks. They've been that way for decades. Driving gas cars doesn't protect you from big brother.
Welcome brother, from what you write I assume you are paid by either Tesla or Soros
You know that what you wrote seems plausible to normie (so, normie will say yeah, see) but it is totally not workable in any size.
So, for the benefits of normie, here it is
- Solar panels, try it, try to go off grid (you may even just plan for it) and let me know how this compare with the cost of a canister of fuel or two.
Wait, the solar panel advocate say: yes, but solar runs "forever" ..... yeah, sure, until battery, wires, inverter, break
- On big brother, we are all dandy until your car stops working because you did not pay the unlawful fine that you received.
Happy ? I am not
Have a nice day
Welcome brother, from what you write I assume you are paid by either Tesla or Soros
You know that what you wrote seems plausible to normie (so, normie will say yeah, see) but it is totally not workable in any size.
So, for the benefits of normie, here it is
- Solar panels, try it, try to go off grid (you may even just plan for it) and let me know how this compare with the cost of a canister of fuel or two.
Wait, the solar panel advocate say: yes, but solar runs "forever" ..... yeah, sure, until battery, wires, inverter, break
- On big brother, we are all dandy until your car stops working because you did not pay the unlawful fine that you received.
Happy ? I am not
Have a nice day
Welcome brother, from what you write I assume you are paid by either Tesla or Soros
Just common sense. If you can't figure out that it's easier to make electricity than it is to pump crude oil and refine it, there's not much that can be done to help you.
Wait, the solar panel advocate say: yes, but solar runs "forever" ..... yeah, sure, until battery, wires, inverter, break
Yes, everything wears out with time. You don't need a battery to charge from solar panels, but you will need an inverter. Those are likely to break every 10 years or so. Can you store 10 years worth of gas in the same space you can store an inverter? I'll need about 6,000 gallons.
> Welcome brother, from what you write I assume you are paid by either Tesla or Soros
Just common sense. If you can't figure out that it's easier to make electricity than it is to pump crude oil and refine it, there's not much that can be done to help you.
> Wait, the solar panel advocate say: yes, but solar runs "forever" ..... yeah, sure, until battery, wires, inverter, break
Yes, everything wears out with time. You don't need a battery to charge from solar panels, but you will need an inverter. Those are likely to break every 10 years or so. Can you store 10 years worth of gas in the same space you can store an inverter? I'll need about 6,000 gallons.
I'm surprised there isn't an organization of kikes out there, somewhere, collecting junked tesla batteries the same way they collect old smartphones. There's a fucking gold-mine of wasted elements in those things, just sitting around doing nothing and being of no value to anybody. If I had the money to start a business, right now: it'd be setting up logistical deals to take in as many scrapped computer parts as possible, and stripping all the valuables. I saw a video (saved it, akshually) of a dude using a series of chemical baths to strip all the gold off a bunch of useless computer parts he had lying around. I think he owned a repair-shop, or something. Anyway, he got a few hundred dollars worth of gold from old ram-sticks and stuff. Think of what you could do with a large, organized enterprise.
I'm surprised there isn't an organization of kikes out there, somewhere, collecting junked tesla batteries the same way they collect old smartphones. There's a fucking gold-mine of wasted elements in those things, just sitting around doing nothing and being of no value to anybody. If I had the money to start a business, right now: it'd be setting up logistical deals to take in as many scrapped computer parts as possible, and stripping all the valuables. I saw a video (saved it, akshually) of a dude using a series of chemical baths to strip all the gold off a bunch of useless computer parts he had lying around. I think he owned a repair-shop, or something. Anyway, he got a few hundred dollars worth of gold from old ram-sticks and stuff. Think of what you could do with a large, organized enterprise.
Have you tried to make a possible plan for what you think ?
Try
come back when you have some sort of understanding of the chemestry and difficulty involved
there will be no "gold rush" in th eolde batteries, just a lot of environmental issues
if they do not catch fire.....
Have you tried to make a possible plan for what you think ?
Try
come back when you have some sort of understanding of the chemestry and difficulty involved
there will be no "gold rush" in th eolde batteries, just a lot of environmental issues
if they do not catch fire.....
Solar power and batteries are a thing though.
Solar power and batteries are a thing though.
Yes, they exist
how viable they really are is all to be seen
a canister of fuel is simple and viable long term storage of energy
solar panels + batteries depends on chemistry, electronics, sun and space
Yes, they exist
how viable they really are is all to be seen
a canister of fuel is simple and viable long term storage of energy
solar panels + batteries depends on chemistry, electronics, sun and space
I always wondered what happens to all the batteries when they go bad or the car gets junked. That seems like a lot of hazardous waste.
I always wondered what happens to all the batteries when they go bad or the car gets junked. That seems like a lot of hazardous waste.
Other than the occasional defect, EV batteries last a decade at a minimum. It's not like you're replacing the batteries every couple of years.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/lithiumion-battery-recycling-finally-takes-off-in-north-america-and-europe
Other than the occasional defect, EV batteries last a decade at a minimum. It's not like you're replacing the batteries every couple of years.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/lithiumion-battery-recycling-finally-takes-off-in-north-america-and-europe
When you have a few hundred million batteries going bad, its going to add up even if they last a long time. And then its not very profitable or safe to recycle them.
When you have a few hundred million batteries going bad, its going to add up even if they last a long time. And then its not very profitable or safe to recycle them.
If it's not profitable then just bury them. The amount of toxics in a battery is dwarfed by the toxic chemical used in gasoline engines. Ten years of driving out of a couple hundred pounds of battery is better than ten years of driving burning 50,000 lbs of gasoline.
If it's not profitable then just bury them. The amount of toxics in a battery is dwarfed by the toxic chemical used in gasoline engines. Ten years of driving out of a couple hundred pounds of battery is better than ten years of driving burning 50,000 lbs of gasoline.
Any study using years to calculate a vehicle's useful life is hopelessly retarded from the outset. The useful life of a vehicle is measured in distance traveled. Someone who drives 25,000 miles a year has almost no hope of keeping a car for 12 years. A person who drives 5,000 miles a year can easily keep a car for 25 years.
Any study using years to calculate a vehicle's useful life is hopelessly retarded from the outset. The useful life of a vehicle is measured in distance traveled. Someone who drives 25,000 miles a year has almost no hope of keeping a car for 12 years. A person who drives 5,000 miles a year can easily keep a car for 25 years.
Someone who drives 25,000 miles a year has almost no hope of keeping a car for 12 years. A person who drives 5,000 miles a year can easily keep a car for 25 years.
How much of that is by design? Because I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of decades-old vintage cars (that look brand-new) roaming the streets, recently. Say blah-blah about what have-you, and investing time in repairing this-or-that niche of the word-salad to do with manufacturing: but if you care to, you used to be able to make a car last a life-time. Why can't you do that, anymore?
> Someone who drives 25,000 miles a year has almost no hope of keeping a car for 12 years. A person who drives 5,000 miles a year can easily keep a car for 25 years.
How much of that is by design? Because I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of decades-old vintage cars (that look brand-new) roaming the streets, recently. Say blah-blah about what have-you, and investing time in repairing this-or-that niche of the word-salad to do with manufacturing: but if you *care to*, you *used* to be able to make a car last a life-time. Why can't you do that, anymore?
Because I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of decades-old vintage cars (that look brand-new) roaming the streets, recently
Because, like I said, a car's useful lifetime cannot be measured in years. You can park a fucking Hyundai in the garage for 30 years and it will work fine 30 years from now given some basic maintenance. Drive that fucker 250,000 miles and tell me how it's going.
The classic cars you are seeing today have undoubtedly been rebuilt from the ground up. They're not a testament to how long cars lasted. Did you ever own an actual factory stock car from the '60s or '70s that wasn't rebuilt with better aftermarket parts? They were pieces of shit that broke down constantly. Sure, you could work on them, but why the fuck should you have to in the first place? A lot of people still drive cars that need constant repairs. I think those are the people who romanticize the past. When your car needs hundreds or thousands in repairs every couple of years of course you wish it was easier to work on yourself. I think they don't know there are cars and trucks that can be driven for a decade without ever spending a single fucking cent on repairs.
> Because I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of decades-old vintage cars (that look brand-new) roaming the streets, recently
Because, like I said, a car's useful lifetime cannot be measured in years. You can park a fucking Hyundai in the garage for 30 years and it will work fine 30 years from now given some basic maintenance. Drive that fucker 250,000 miles and tell me how it's going.
The classic cars you are seeing today have undoubtedly been rebuilt from the ground up. They're not a testament to how long cars lasted. Did you ever own an actual factory stock car from the '60s or '70s that wasn't rebuilt with better aftermarket parts? They were pieces of shit that broke down constantly. Sure, you could work on them, but why the fuck should you have to in the first place? A lot of people still drive cars that need constant repairs. I think those are the people who romanticize the past. When your car needs hundreds or thousands in repairs every couple of years of course you wish it was easier to work on yourself. I think they don't know there are cars and trucks that can be driven for a decade without ever spending a single fucking cent on repairs.
Sure, you could work on them, but why the fuck should you have to in the first place? A lot of people still drive cars that need constant repairs.
We're diverging in to different arguments. Anyway, my point is that the only thing you can rely on, in this world, is that nothing is permanent. However, the less transient that something can make itself: the better. The fact is: you can repair old cars that came without computer parts easier and better. That's just pure and unadulterated fax, right there. They came, out of the box, easier to repair. My gold-standard example is: the replaceable smartphone battery. It's just an intentional choice to fuck the consumer, for no other reason than profit. They're literally making products shittier, because they know you have no other choice than to buy their shitty products, with a big dumb fucking smile on your face.
> Sure, you could work on them, but why the fuck should you have to in the first place? A lot of people still drive cars that need constant repairs.
We're diverging in to different arguments. Anyway, my point is that the only thing you can rely on, in this world, is that nothing is permanent. However, the *less* transient that something can make itself: the better. The fact is: you can repair old cars that came without computer parts easier and better. That's just pure and unadulterated fax, right there. They came, out of the box, easier to repair. My gold-standard example is: the replaceable smartphone battery. It's just an intentional choice to fuck the consumer, for no other reason than profit. They're literally making products shittier, because they know you have no other choice than to buy their shitty products, with a big dumb fucking smile on your face.
What kind of car would you recommend? Mine has been giving me tons of issues and I still have 10k left to pay
What kind of car would you recommend? Mine has been giving me tons of issues and I still have 10k left to pay
True, a lot is by design, especially with electronics
It will change when normie start looking at something that satisfy a need instead of the usual "oooohhhhhh shiny"
Are we screwed ? possibly yes
True, a lot is by design, especially with electronics
It will change when normie start looking at something that satisfy a need instead of the usual "oooohhhhhh shiny"
Are we screwed ? possibly yes
(post is archived)