please dont relate victorian men with the pedophiles that run the state. but at the same time every day im reminded more and more that im neither Victorian nor Australian. If what i keep getting shown are true Aussie and Victorian values, then im about as far from being those things as you can get. not really sure what that makes me now. besides that, if you think throwing women in with this mix of 'only men' would do anything but make things infinitely worse you might just have inhaled a bit too much feminist fart gas.