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I find it curious how much effort has been put in over the years to mix "moon-denial" as you put it, in with lizard people and flat earth stuff.

In fact, up until the early 2000s, if you asked someone for conspiracy theory stereotypes they'd probably say something like "tinfoil hats, UFOs, kennedy assassination and moon landing being faked." Those were the things the media pushed heavily as being "things only crazy people thought."

We know the Kennedy assassination was BS, that was perhaps America's first major political gaslighting. I don't think it's a stretch that the apollo program actually funded some grainy TV footage and the rest was used as a black budget for gods know what.

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The apollo program was a weapons program. A rocket to the moon can also deliver a nuke. The point of making it public was so there was no doubt of American weapons capabilities.

It didn't have to be black budget.

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They already had much more efficient ICBM programs though, the results of which were also problic. The military interest in NASA was about putting humans in space, They were worried that manned orbital platforms/bombers were going to be the new ICBMs and the US would lose out if it didn't develop them first. Which was a legitimate concern, but turned out to be an incorrect one.

The moon shot specifically was a kennedy vanity project with a lot of institutional momentum behind it, especially after he died. America didn't need another black pill right then, so they couldn't just axe it. It either had to succeed or appear to succeed. I think the latter is what happened, but we'll never know until someone goes to the eagle's nest and looks around for footprints. The black budget wasn't the purpose of the program, just an added incentive for everyone involved to stay quiet once the decision was made to fake it.

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Look up the USS Maine. It's like if the twin towers were a ship, a boiler goes out, fire sets off the ships charges and next thing you know the elites and media have twisted it into the impetus to fuck Spain's shit up.

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Not just the Maine. The USS Liberty, Gulf of Tonkin incident, Lusitania... it's pretty much standard MO at this point for the globalists to sink a boat if they want a war. 9/11 was switching it up a bit by making it a building.

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100% man. The Maine is the oldest large scale example of this kind of behavior displayed by the US press that I know of and also very clear example because Spain had nothing to gain and everything to loose from a war, and that's exactly how it went down with the US gaining the Philippines and Cuba fairly effortlessly IIRC but I'm sure history is littered with this wag the dog shit.

Hell I'm pretty sure they were trying again with that (((Iranian))) on Japanese tanker attack.

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theres literally thousands of people who can absolutely confirm that nasa is doing what it says its doing, so, no.

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Haha NASA does nothing of any importance and they receive 54 million tax payer dollars everyday.

If you actually believe we sent humans 250,000 miles through space, landed and took off multiple times, you belong on the top of that list.

It’s fucking ridiculous on its face.

The first transcontinental commercial flight was in like 1959 and 10 years later we have the technology (that happens to be lost and we can never recreate it) to fly to the fucking moon?

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shut up jEw

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The first transcontinental commercial flight was in like 1959 and 10 years later we have the technology (that happens to be lost and we can never recreate it) to fly to the fucking moon?

In fairness, that's the most believable claim about the entire thing: Even if they did go to the moon, the entire thing was a boondoggle vanity project and there was no point in repeating it. Transatlantic flight took off because it was significantly cheaper and faster than travelling by luxury liner. Moon flights could never have taken off because it's cheaper to mine stuff on earth, and no one is willing or able to pay billions of dollars for a trophy vacation. Millions? Yes, space tourism exists, but billions is pushing it.

You are a fucking retard.

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theres literally thousands of people who can confirm that the moon landing happened. anyone advocating disbelieve in humanities achievements in this field are paid actors or crazy nutjobs.

you will die a horrible death once the revolution starts.

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Dude rocketry is rocketry, if you can deliver a payload to the moon you can deliver it to Moscow. The whole point is that Kennedy got people to back insane levels of ballistic research spending (largely built on the knowledge of engineers we yoinked off Hitler) and be happy about it in time where hippie anti-war sentiment dominated.

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i dont fucking care about some lunatic scheeming about some bullshit: good people received funding and they did great things with it, no matter the motivation. Period. and yes, criticism is allowed and some things could have gone fater or better or different, but that doesnt change the fact that humanity is makong progress. so fuck off with your scepticism .

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Is your username a joke about the fact that there has never been a successful human civilization which originated between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn? Or just a statement on the color of skin that you want to dominate that part of the world?

Either way, kudos.

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I think it's a comment on his waistline.

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i dream of a world in which all unnatural shitskins are dead and i can have a vacation on the equator without being surrounded by niggerjEws

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I never said that NASA does no space stuff. I said that one of their really big budget programs that put them on the map was looking shaky, so it's possible they cut a deal with the deep state: We get to engineer a propaganda success to finally beat the soviets at something, and you get a cut of the budget.

Everyone who would have to have been in on it would either benefit enormously, or could be pressured to go along. Those that refused... they were in a high risk profession and could easily be accidented.

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I've read that there's multiple levels to the faked moon landing conspiracy, from the normie "we definitely landed every Apollo mission on the moon" to the far-out "every moon mission was faked". The problem is that everyone that questions even a single Apollo mission is lumped in with the nutters.

Take for example the theory that at least one of the moon landings was faked. The multiple analyses of The Shining certainly indicate that there is a chance Kubrick was involved in faking a moon landing. Apollo 11 is an unlikely candidate, due to the massive amount of attention focused on it from every corner of the Earth, but Apollo 16 or 17 could have easily been faked due to the general and scientific populace experiencing moon landing fatigue and caring much less about the missions.

It's the same shit they use for (((antisemitism))). If you question the number of jews in power in America, you're lumped in with someone that bombed a synagogue and tortured a rabbi.