Due to a design trend set by the retards geniusses at Apple (the same people that have always built phones with limited functionality and relatively weak, slow-charging batteries), nearly all mobile phones released in the last three years have non-replaceable batteries.

If you think about it, non-removable batteries are a rather terrible idea.

The battery is the fastest-aging part of a mobile phone. Making it non-modular is an irrational and anti-logical idea.

A replacement by service usually defeats the water resistance seal.

Users should at least have the option to purchase mobile phones with replaceable batteries, to preserve the freedom of confident charging without bothering with / worrying about battery aging.

Preserving battery lifespan requires keeping the charge between around 25% to 75, but on a mobile phone with replaceable battery, one can always charge to 100% with full confidence, and not give any damn about battery lifespan, because it is always replaceable anyway!

Some of the lastest excellent mobile phones with replaceable batteries were the Galaxy S5 (early 2014), Galaxy Note 4 (late 2014) and LG V10 (2015), which actually still do well in 2019!

Apple iOS 13 has introduced a feature that limits battery charging to 80%. Android phones could do that with root-access apps for years, and some laptops had this feature for a decade.

But with a replaceable battery, one never needs to worry about that.

Also, I know that a non-replaceable battery allows slim design. But for me, practicality and functionality is always first.

Also, “slim design” has become a buzzword, and Apple has proven that Apple users still purchase the iPhone 11, despite of >8mm thickness (~2mm thicker than iPhone 6 and 6s), the same iSheep people that preached in 2013 that Android-running mobile phones such as ~7mm Galaxy S4 are “too thick”.

Due to a design trend set by the ~~retards~~ geniusses at Apple (the same people that have always built phones with limited functionality and relatively weak, slow-charging batteries), nearly all mobile phones released in the last three years have **non-replaceable batteries.** If you think about it, non-removable batteries are a rather [terrible idea.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence#battery) The battery is the fastest-aging part of a mobile phone. Making it non-modular is an irrational and anti-logical idea. A replacement by service usually defeats the water resistance seal. Users should at least have **the option** to purchase mobile phones with replaceable batteries, to preserve the freedom of confident charging without bothering with / worrying about battery aging. Preserving battery lifespan requires keeping the charge between around 25% to 75, but on a mobile phone with replaceable battery, one can always charge to 100% with full confidence, and not give any damn about battery lifespan, **because it is always replaceable anyway!** Some of the lastest excellent mobile phones with replaceable batteries were the Galaxy S5 (early 2014), Galaxy Note 4 (late 2014) and LG V10 (2015), which actually still do well in 2019! Apple iOS 13 has introduced a feature that limits battery charging to 80%. Android phones could do that with root-access apps for years, and some laptops had this feature for a decade. But with a replaceable battery, one never needs to worry about that. Also, I know that a non-replaceable battery allows **slim design**. But for me, practicality and functionality is always first. Also, *“slim design”* has become a buzzword, and Apple has proven that Apple users still purchase the iPhone 11, despite of >8mm thickness (~2mm thicker than iPhone 6 and 6s), the same ~~iSheep~~ people that preached in 2013 that Android-running mobile phones such as ~7mm Galaxy S4 are *“too thick”*.

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[–] Handroid7 [OP] 6 pts (+6|-0)

Disclaimer: Despite of my suggestive username, I am not an Android fanboy.

I think Android is also far from perfect. I wrote this Wikipedia draft article of Android's removed features (before Bbb23, the most despicable Wikipedia administrator, decided to erase it for no reason).

It's not a flaw, it's a feature that makes extra money. As long as there's a market for things that aren't built to last, they'll continue to design things so they won't last.

Apple's designers aren't retards, the people who buy the phones are the retards.

I will never buy a phone without a removable battery.

Can't remove it, it dies faster so you have to buy a new one. PLUS, your phone can NEVER be turned off. Even when it's so dead you can't turn it on, it's still on. You have to leave a smartphone for days or possibly weeks before you prevent the govt/carrier from pinging your SIM.

Bad idea. Check out the librem 5 phone if you care about this stuff

A number of years back, on a phone with a removable battery, I was shown something scary. The battery was removed and handed to,me, looked like a Samsung battery. Then I was shown the label on the battery peeled up and an identical Samsung markings on the battery under it.

The sticker, as it was peeled showed a complex circuit on a flexible substrate, antenna coils, thin chips, and the circuit traces extended to the edge of the sticker where they were wrapped around the edge of the battery giving it access to power. This was not any sort of original battery equipment and was not in a way to interrupt power. It was all very sneaky and seemed to be it’s own listening, recording, and transmitting for when the battery was removed and the owner thought it was off.

Scary stuff, who knows how many of these went out without notice. Were they for special people or a drag net. Our gov or other?

very interesting. thanks for sharing!

We do know that the CIA has been putting backdoors in devices like iPhones for years now, so maybe it's them, or Korea/China (if it's from samsung).

Yes, hardware bacdoors, software back doors, node monitoring, etc. this was interesting because it was so quickly deployable, (didn’t have to spend an unexplained day in Virginia on its way to you) and would work in the state most people thought was “safe”.

A friend in the biz told me once, he and his brother could never really talk ( both in the biz) as they were both highly monitored. Unless they went to the beach, stripped to their shorts, left phones in the car woth batteries out and stood in the surf. Then they could talk.

You also can’t ever get out of that world once you’re in that deep like his brother was, he wished he could get out.

[–] Handroid7 [OP] 1 pt (+1|-0)

There are also some mobile phones such as Fairphone 2, and they are a good concept.

But find me one mobile phone with both 2160p@60fps video recording, >20W of fast charging, and a replaceable battery in one device.

The fast charging isn't that big a deal. You can just have a seco~d battery on standby, and as long as you don't use up the battery before the other is charged you can just swap it out.

[–] Handroid7 [OP] 2 pts (+2|-0)

Yes, but that requires re-booting the device.

But in an emergency, it can be practical.

Also, one can use power banks.

Also helps the gov spy on us when we can't actually turn our phones off anymore.

[–] Handroid7 [OP] 0 pt (+0|-0)

After shutting down the device, it staying secretly on and communicating to the internet would drain the battery faster than expected.

It doesn't need to maintain constant communication. Just intermittent gps locates and only when activated by the agency running a warrant on the user. Also, audio can be recorded locally with very minimal battery usage, then uploaded once phone is turned on.

[–] Handroid7 [OP] 2 pts (+2|-0)

It doesn't need to maintain constant communication. Just intermittent gps locates and only when activated by the agency running a warrant on the user. Also, audio can be recorded locally with very minimal battery usage, then uploaded once phone is turned on.

Interesting. Sounds scary…

[–] [deleted] 3 pts (+3|-0) (edited )

>The battery is the fastest-aging part of a mobile phone. Making it non-modular is an irrational and anti-logical idea.

You say that, because you're not used to think the "right" way, when it comes to commercial products

So, here's a little story for you;

One day, schlomo calls moshe, and he says: "moshe, I have a container full of pants right now for $100, you take it?"

And moshe replies "sure, no problem"

Next day, moshe calls ariel "ariel, I have a container full of pants right now for $300, you take it?"

To which ariel replies "sure, no problem"

The following day, ariel calls aaron "aaron, I have a container full of pants right now for $900, you take it?"

And aaron answers "sure, no problem"

And the next day, aaron calls christian, and he says "christian, I have a container full of pants right now for $2700, you take it?"

And christian replies "sure, no problem"

Then, the day after, christian calls aaron "WTF AARON, WTF WITH THE PANTS YOU SOLD ME!!"

And aaron replies "What? What's the problem?"

Christian : "YOU FUCKED ME AARON, ALL YOUR FUCKING PANTS ONLY HAVE ONE LEG!!!!"

To which aaron replied "Christian, stop being an idiot. Those pants aren't made to be worn! They are made to be sold!"

...

Those phones are made to be sold, not to last your entire life so you never have to buy one ever again

[–] Handroid7 [OP] 4 pts (+4|-0)

Neat story.

Planned obsolescence is terrible.

I wish it did not exist.

add to it Apple changing the iOS quick access menu Wifi and Bluetooth buttons from fully turning them on and off to just leaving them on but not pairing (so they still skim ambient network data and drain your battery) and full on they are anti-consumer devices

not being modular also makes phones far less interactapodular.

They've trained their users to believe that intentionally crappy = innovative. "See you don't get it. Apple is opinionated. It makes it a better ecosystem"

I'm sure they are.

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