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You are confusing power with energy. Power is instantaneous, the 1st derivative of energy with respect to time. Energy is found with time.

That's why why all the units in my post are measured in power units per time period. That's what kWh and MWh are - units of energy. I think you're the one who is confused.

Right now in the summer we have problems when everyone turns on their ACs, when everyone is plugging in their cars at stations looking for a quick charge, we will have problems.

Time of use pricing cures that problem. Nobody is going to charge their car when it costs $45 to charge up when you could charge overnight for $8.

The grid will have to be upgraded, not just power production, but distribution. This will absolutely raise the cost of electricity.

Only if your intent is to design the grid to be able to handle the maximum theoretical load, which is not how capacity planning is done. It's not done for sewers, it's not done for water, it's not done for natural gas pipelines, or anything else.

Also this administration is moving to a smart grid, that only means more control. Most likely the ability to shutdown stations at their will or have charging stations that will only charge if they are in ok status from the power company to provide a charge.

And you think they won't shut you off from buying gas if that's the plan? You'd have to be retarded to believe that.

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You still don't understand the peak power and demand issue, it is a problem today and will be more of a problem tomorrow. They will say they have to move to a smart grid to optimize distribution. Now that opens things up to QoS style delivery. The game is chess not checkers, you have to see their moves of getting more control on a macro level.

Time of use pricing cures that problem

Now you just given them more control of your behavior. Not a win.

Only if your intent is to design the grid to be able to handle the maximum theoretical load,

Substations will have to be upgraded, lines to them as well. There will be QoS with a smart grid, giving them more control and favor.

And you think they won't shut you off from buying gas if that's the plan?

Electricity is instant, liquid can be stored. That is a huge problem for them, they need to be able to stall society in an instant, liquid can still flow and takes (too much for them) time to deplete. Shutting off gas is like taking a punch you expect. Shutting off electricity is a blind sided punch you don't expect. This isn't just for you, I am referring to the masses and how they react.

They make these moves for macro level planning.

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Electricity is instant, liquid can be stored.

Electricity can be manufactured from the Sun with nothing other than a flat piece of silicon. It can be manufactured with a windmill, or small-scale hydro, or even a plain old gas-powered generator if all else fails. Using electricity as a fuel source has all the flexibility of gas with the added flexibility of being able to use other easily accessible methods to manufacture it.

And gas can only be stored for so long. Electricity can be manufactured forever.

Everything has tradeoffs, and electricity can't escape that. However, flexibility and accessibility in SHTF is not one of them.

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I am looking at the macro level with society. Your steps are ideal for the individual who has the property or the wealth to afford solar capacity to charge their car every day and power their house.

Assuming all cars are EVs today, if they shutoff electricity to a quadrant of the country, no one has the ability to move, those already on the road traveling will be stuck where they are at currently. They will have no ability to charge.

Right now today, if the grid goes down in a quadrant of the country, the entire petroleum production and distribution can be powered by the fuel itself. At least allowing tankers to get to many stations. If the fuel system is cut it will take time before it diminishes to zero, also fuel can be transported in by truck from another area of the country. But overall it will take time to halt society, too slow for TPTB needs.