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Also, don't forget, the heating inside your car in winter comes from the battery on an EV. Heated electric seats, heated steering wheel, defrost, all take power. In a gasoline-powered car, you get defrost and cabin heating for free, because an internal combustion engine gives off large amounts of waste heat, which can be used in winter to heat the vehicle.

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It's not "free" in an ICE , it's just allowed to be used where normally it's wasted extremely inefficiently.

An electric car is extremely efficient. Albeit, the batteries weigh too much and charge too slowly to be very functional.

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Not only do you get to recycle some of that waste heat, you also can't use it all. Drive 30 minutes down the road and you'll be sweating your balls off.

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Everything that doesn't work towards moving the car forward but requires electricity in an an electric vehicle lowers the range. Moving the power windows, using navigation, A/C, heat, stereo (louder is worse), heater, seats, etc. They somehow took MPG averages of "we went 55mph down the highway with no wind on a perfectly flat and straight stretch of road and got 30mpg" and ramped them up to absurdity with electric car range. And one of the worst parts is that governments let them lie about it because they'd rather let them sell "zero emission" electric cars that deceive everyone and be green.

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You aren't wrong, but ALL vehicle manufacturers are lying sacks of shit when it comes to efficiency.

I have a hybrid, and before that I had a value brand stick shift. Neither of them came within 25 percent of claimed economy

I mean what is using a STDERR of 5 between friends, amirite?

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Winter range? They're calling 30 to 20 Fahrenheit (0 to -6 Celsius) winter temperatures.

They're purposely misleading people by using the warmest temps that can be still called "Winter".

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Furthermore, when your EV is parked in the cold not charging, it is using energy to keep the battery warm. So these numbers are probably even lower.

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Define cold.

not warm!

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So the outliers are from audi and jaguar and are only estimated ranges and not confirmed ranges.

I wonder how bad they're lying.

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Bad. The numbers they give are for unrealistic style of driving and daily commuting conditions. The only thing electric cars are really good for is being oversized golf carts for getting around the neighborhood and like a large property.

I worked in servo manufacturing and while not working in the car or electric car industry, it is laughable to think even with nuclear this shit is more economical.

Everyone should be suspect of why NO ONE brings up natural gas cars metered right at your house which would cause massive economic upheavals. They’re cleaner and extremely viable. You can literally get as close to best of both worlds with it. But it would sink entire clusters of special interests from trucking to gas stations. You would need nat gas stations but not as we do for gasoline.

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I would think the best electric setup would be a standard large engine (I6, v8,v10,v12) and a supercapacitor setup for kinetic energy recovery. With the option to plug in and charge the supercap bank when parked.

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If we had supercapacitors of some sort, wouldn't we have eliminated the main problem of electric vehicles. Can't you charge a capacitor super quick?

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Yes caps can charge and discharge very quickly, but they have low energy density.

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You're basically describing a PHEV.

I like the idea of electric cars, but I don't think they are completely ready yet. I wouldn't have one as my sole mode of transportation.