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I'm referring to gods, demons, clockwork elves, or any other supernatural entities. Even just a great good and/or a great evil.

If you were advancing the argument that these things move through people and influence the world, what would you point to as evidence?

I'm referring to gods, demons, clockwork elves, or any other supernatural entities. Even just a great good and/or a great evil. If you were advancing the argument that these things move through people and influence the world, what would you point to as evidence?

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Watch this and tell me the Devil isn't active.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/O43xCvwOgE7R/

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So how would we put that argument into words?

Various patterns of degenerate behavior have emerged. They seem evil as they are both viscerally disgusting and violate the natural order (all discourage reproduction in some form or attempt to destroy children). The fact that there are such patterns and that it grows in spite of not reproducing organically (through childbirth) suggest an underlying root evil. A sort of possessing force.

Fair?

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There is objective evil in the world.

All you need to know such a thing is to sense it.

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Can you define what evil is?

Also, take a look at this comment: https://poal.co/s/AskPoal/133266/ccf70422-6335-4598-94b0-a1172d937390#cmnts

I particularly honed in on this:

it is actually pseudo-science to fish data into a system and define something based on the correlations of that system

I'm not sure whether the claim is correct that any definition resulting purely from observed correlations is psuedo-scientific (I could be persuaded, but at this time I have no certainty either way). Perhaps an observed correlation alerts you to something, which you can then craft a testable definition from.

But it is worth questioning ourselves: have we defined as evil the patterns we don't like? Or is there something more to it. Maybe what we see as evil is that which violates certain natural orders -- in other words, reproducing and caring for children as we typically see in nature, heterosexuality, sexual dimorphism. (Taking some liberties there because we'd only count the animals similar to us -- certain species will eat their own young in certain cases but they are dissimilar from us so we ignore them.) Maybe this is why the gays are so eager to highlight the presence of gay animals (I think this is fairly rare to the point of being basically non-existent, but any anecdote they can get their hands on seems to promote their cause).

On the other hand, are other human patterns we can't observe in nature evil? Is having tech such as AC in your house evil? Is a vegetarian diet evil since we have shortened gut tracts and certain meat-adapted teeth? Is the knowledge of good and evil... evil (Genesis would seem to suggest that it is)?