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I learned this in school, but back then we actually learned things in school.

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Same here. Also it was on tv when they tried to teach things.

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It was in the Schoolhouse Rock “I’m Just A Bill” cartoon.

They specifically made mention that the senate can override a veto, but it’s very difficult to actually get that done.

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To override a veto you need 2/3 of the Senate and 2/3 of the House. The Senate alone can't do it.

Read the Constitution. It isn't hundreds of pages, it is a single sheet of parchment. Then the amendments add a few paragraphs.

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Let me see your dick

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Oh, hey bro

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Yay

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God. Everyone’s all fucking happy to see me and nobody shows me

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I believe it is called a clitoris

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Its because civics is never taught anymore. Its hard to play the game when you don't know the rules.

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Civics, anything finance related, proper history... The jew keep their goy in the dark so they won't rise up against them.

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Read the Constitution. It’s quite short, as such a document should be... not thousands of pages like most “laws” today. Once you see the enumerated powers granted to the government vs. all the crap it does (unconstitutionally), you’ll be dumbfounded.

Frankly, I think the Articles of Confederation were a better deal, but the US Constitution (were it adhered to) is a decent basis for a government.

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not thousands of pages like most “laws” today.

James Madison was adamantly against laws that were bloated and indecipherable. Of course, the feds started making such laws as soon as he and the Founding Fathers were gone: https://pic8.co/sh/2XHHL9.jpg

Frankly, I think the Articles of Confederation were a better deal

We were taught that the AoC were bad largely because they permitted states to charge tariffs on interstate trade, and to create their own paper currencies of dubious value and then use them to steal property from the middle class (culminating in Shay's Rebellion). With runaway fiat currency--money printer go brrr--and SCOTUS having legalized states putting tariffs back onto interstate trade, we're in too many ways back to the AoC.

Though I'd say the best basis of government we've seen has been the Confederate States of America's Constitution, as it took the US Constitution and fixed what had proven to be its flaws. So many of our problems would be solved if Congress could only pass bills each about one specific issue, and that issue had to be the exact title of the bill. No riders, no pork, no more "pass the bill to find out what's in it"

But then again, no government can not be crap when it allows non-Whites into it. John Adams effectively said as much.

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Are multiple-issue bills a recent thing? I fully agree here, why is it OK to tie orthogonal concepts into the same bill?

Similarly why is it ok to have "temporary measures" noone has really made a big deal about the fact that half the pork of the recent spending bill was renewals of temporary measures. such measures are the epitome of boiling the frog

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Declaration of Independence = 1458 words

US Constitution = 4543 words un-amended

Bill of Rights (the first 10 Amendments) = 1436 words

There are about 470 words on a single space typed page (12 pt. Arial). All said & done it comes to about 16 pages.

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"The Constitution" was a coup d'etat. A bunch of faggot "muh founders" went behind closed doors, created some new faggot document called The Toilet Paper, and declared it the new law because they were the elected fucks at the time.

Imagine Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden going behind closed doors and emerging saying, "Hey, Toilet Paper 3.0 here. You all must obey."

Meh, it would probably work.

E: , I want the two individuals that downvoted me punished. I am not spam nor am not contributing to the conversation. Let's keep things fair for the Voat folks getting hit with the stupid rule.

E2: I guess I should have added, "Ha, don't expect anything fair, just like the tyrannical faggot Constitution."

E3: o7

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You left out the step where it had to be ratified by 9 out of the 13 States to be adopted. Until then, it was just paper.

You, for example, can write any paper you want. But you need people to agree with you to form a new government.

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You know who else was validly "ratified" recently?

E: I left out nothing, John Snow.

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But you need people to agree with you to form a new government.

You need some influencial folks to agree with it or use jew money to get others to agree with it. Let's not be unbecoming and speak the truth. The jews are running the show because of your faggot love of Muh Constitution.

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I agree with your post but I down voted you because you cried about being down voted.

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Oh, that is gay reasoning, but I accept it. Cheers!

I upvoted you. Hope you care about faggot fake Internet spoils!

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There's no such thing as law. The Law is simply the lie told to peasants to trick us into thinking that there are standardized rules for all of us. Law is the lie that's there's consistency in life, a layer of bedrock, of reality that we can build upon.

There's no justice. There's no fairness. There's no consistency. All there is is the fickle whims of psychotics.

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Laws are real things tho in that if you break one you will face the consequences

Tho I agree that they aren't a priori justified...

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Justice is real as well, we're just indoctrinated to assume the courts have a monopoly on it.

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No, there is a single law that's always right - might. With it you can enforce any other law. But in numbers there is strength, therefore the few mighty titans have to compromise with the numerous by making laws that benefit both. Occasionally the balance gets tipped.

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Government schools ...not public

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No. You either forgot or didnt pay attention in class. They teach this shit all the time. So, life tip that will blow your mind. You knew where to get this information before you just didnt bother to read the constitution. Reading does not have to stop once youre out of school nor should it.

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Reading does not have to stop once youre out of school nor should it

I agree with this. I hated the method of regurgitated learning, so I had to learn how to enjoy learning again on my own after highschool.

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I was talking with my college aged nephew from Ohio over Christmas. He was taught in a high school class that the Pilgrims fled Europe for a new land because they couldn’t have slaves in Europe. Good news is that he maintains that they all knew it was bullshit. Bad News is he is in College now....

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You just weren't listening.

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Im not American but I thought they could do this if they have a 66.7% (super?) majority or something like that.

Im assuming it was put in place just in case they had a (((President))) and a based Senate could check and balance them, but I dont think the founding fathers every thought we'd have a (((Senate))) and a bad goy President.

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Or the US circuit court overriding a Presidential order.

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