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My wife and I will not be getting the shot. We both have great high paying jobs. Within a 3 day period, her boss, and now my boss have stated that "employees of this organization will ALL be vaccinated."

I felt like stabbing him in the neck and ripping the blade out sideways for that attack on my liberty and way of life.

I will plan now. I will not submit.

I can either fake the vaccine or move somewhere more conservative. Texas or Florida seem to be good bets.

I am asking the people of Poal for resources. For information and help that I'm having trouble finding online. I need to plan this. We have enough saved to launch pretty much now. We are leasing a big house (no kids) and the lease is up July 1st.

Does anyone know of any groups or communities that I should look in to and possibly transition to a part of the US where we would be welcomed?

EDIT

I thank everyone for their replies. The truth of it for us is it is a sincerely held religious belief. We believe the Bible. The Bible says that we will not be able to conduct commerce without a markof the beast in the end times. The Bible said that 1900+ years ago and now it is coming true. Prophecy is the best proof of God.

This wouldn't be me lying. I guess I'm freaking out right now because I know this is going to get bad for those without the mark. This isn't going to go away. Persecution is inevitable and it's inevitable that sooner or later it will become unbearable.

My wife and I will not be getting the shot. We both have great high paying jobs. Within a 3 day period, her boss, and now my boss have stated that "employees of this organization will ALL be vaccinated." I felt like stabbing him in the neck and ripping the blade out sideways for that attack on my liberty and way of life. I will plan now. I will not submit. I can either fake the vaccine or move somewhere more conservative. Texas or Florida seem to be good bets. I am asking the people of Poal for resources. For information and help that I'm having trouble finding online. I need to plan this. We have enough saved to launch pretty much now. We are leasing a big house (no kids) and the lease is up July 1st. Does anyone know of any groups or communities that I should look in to and possibly transition to a part of the US where we would be welcomed? **EDIT** I thank everyone for their replies. The truth of it for us is it is a sincerely held religious belief. We believe the Bible. The Bible says that we will not be able to conduct commerce without a markof the beast in the end times. The Bible said that 1900+ years ago and now it is coming true. Prophecy is the best proof of God. This wouldn't be me lying. I guess I'm freaking out right now because I know this is going to get bad for those without the mark. This isn't going to go away. Persecution is inevitable and it's inevitable that sooner or later it will become unbearable.

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[–] [deleted] • 62 pts

Don't quit. Make them fire you and keep them liable.

[–] • -1 pt

Good luck explaining that in a job interview.

[–] • 23 pts

"I was fired because I refused to surrender my agency and bodily autonomy to an untested, experimental gene therapy with unknown long-term side-effects."

[–] • 4 pts

That's how you explain that you have critical thinking skills. The next question is if employers want them.

[–] • 0 pt

You obviously don't care about the common good. Our masters know best.

[–] • 8 pts

It's going to come up either way. If his new job doesn't require vaccination they won't care. If they do they won't hire him.

[–] • 35 pts

Say that you talked to a lawyer, and you need your employers to put in writing EXACTLY what they are forcing you to do, and EXACTLY what the consequences are. - Do not say that you are or are not getting injected. Do not debate anything. Only say that you need everything in writing and signed by your boss so your lawyer and the state's labor board can review it.

If your bosses try to argue or debate that what they are doing is legal, don't say anything other than for them to put that in writing too and sign it so that your lawyer and your state's labor board can look it over.

Either way, don't quit. Make them fire you.

[–] • 16 pts

You're right about this. I challenged an assistant manager at our local grocers and told him I had exemption from wearing a mask. He said it was store policy and if I didn't comply he would order the cashiers to not let me pay for my groceries. I argued that the manager has oked me to not wear a mask and he denied that this was so but said they had allowed another customer to be exempt. He claimed I had to show proof of a doctor's note. I told him I wanted him to put this in writing and he said he would then called the manager. He came back a minute later and said I as ok to not wear a mask on the manager's orders. Just asking for it to be put in writing scared him as then I could sue as I would have documented proof of him violating my rights.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

I low-key record all my interactions in public with no mask. This is an emotional issue for people, and you throw in emotions you're going to get, at minimum, heavy exaggeration if law becomes involved.

[–] • 3 pts

Probably the best advice right now. A lot of folks say their boss is requiring the vaccine, but it's not clearly stated in writing that they'll lose their job if they don't get the shot. So it turns out it's really just a stromg suggestion from employers.

Another point is that employers aren't shielded from injury lawsuits from employees they force to take the shot. I'm sure we'll see a few lawsuits against employers who forget to check with a lawyer before instituting a mandatory vaccine policy.

[–] • 0 pt

It's just wild. My employer has it in writing for the flu vax and the second covid is FDA approved I'm sure they will add it to the list. I'm going to fill out and have notorized a religious exemption form if they actually follow through on the policy. They are a Catholic organization and I bet they will quietly drop it to keep from being embarrassed.

[–] • 27 pts (edited )

If you’ve ever gotten a vaccine before and had a reaction (hint you and everyone else did, that’s the whole point of vaccines), then tell your employer that your doctor advised you not to get this one, because you’ve had a reaction in the past.

[–] • 34 pts

First question I'd ask in court, "How long until my employer can demand I get an abortion so I don't miss work?"

[–] [deleted] • 23 pts

When you put it in those terms, employers demanding employees get vaccinated is an extremely dangerous precedent to set.

[–] • 15 pts

No shit. Even if the vaccine were 9001% safe, it's still immoral to comply because of the precedent it's setting. The whole point of this is to shift control of your body into the hands of the government, with employers, schools, transit companies and retailers acting as the enforcers.

The goal is likely some kind of one child policy (we have to limit child birth because climate change) with quotas set to reflect "racial justice," (ie. white ethnic cleansing).

If they get that far with no hitches, they'll happily create life licences, without which you won't be allowed to have food or medicine.

[–] • 1 pt

Employers ( schools) demanding employees ( students )

[–] • 4 pts

Oh, thats spicy. I like that one a lot.

[–] • 1 pt

Or how about, my employer needs more trans representation in the company, so they demand that I cut off my dick.

[–] • 10 pts

Good idea. He should be able to get certified on that by a Dr. His employer can't mandate harm, that sounds like a law suit

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

This. You now have a deadly shellfish allergy because of that time you ate seafood in Mexico and went into anaphylactic shock. Get a doctors note or fake one. Pay out of pocket for the appointment. Doctors are telling people not to get the vaccine if they have had severe allergic reactions in the past.

[–] • 0 pt

Just go to a new doc and on the new patient forms fill out the allergy section however you want. They didn't question mine (they were legit - I have a ton of allergies though I did exagerrate on one) and added it to my chart and wrote me a medical exemption for the regular flu shot.

[–] • 20 pts

Your options for non compliance:

  1. Stay quiet. Do nothing. Brush it off. Odds are the will make a show about it, but it will be quickly forgotten. If pressed: "Oh, right, I'll get it next week." Oh, I had another medical issue that is delaying my vaccine. This will work better than you might guess ... unless HR hates you and is looking for a reason to terminate, they will ignore and let it go. You don't 'brag' and they care about protecting a good worker.
  2. Lie and say you had it. Odds are they are not going to press for medical records as that's messy with HIPAA. (Unless you are in the medical field, which means option #2 doesn't really work.) If they press, forge a cert. Low risk and low cost beyond the risk of termination.
  3. Be noisy about it. Intentionally get yourself fired and have a good lawyer. Wrongful termination suits can take years, but can be very valuable.
[–] • 14 pts

Ding Ding Ding!

Test them to make sure that it's not just a chest puffing show. They are probably doing it for optics, and to see how many people will self identify and leave. Ignore them to make sure they really mean it.

I plan to politely deny them my medical information. As my employer they have no right to know medical conditions that don't require reasonable accommodations per ADA guidelines. If vaccination status has historically not been a part of your job, there is no reason for it to start today!

[–] • 8 pts

Do the dem play book I m scheduled I'm scheduled Week after next I'm scheduled I'm scheduled I already got it a long time ago, why do you keep asking?

[–] • 11 pts

oi why do I have to get this vaccine I already took 6 vaccines, dont make me take another 60. Im scheduled for 600 vaccines just ask my lawyer. 6 000 vaccines? geez where will I find time to get vaccinated 60 000 times. This all reminds me of that one time I was vaccinated 6 000 000 times.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

.4. Pay a doc $100 to mark you down as vaccinated.

[–] • 13 pts

Yeah, that's a terrible idea.

  1. Involving others in any malfeasance is bad news. No Dr is going to risk anything for $100. Best case, he will just politely ask you never to come back.
  2. Forging vaccination receipts is child's play. Just do it yourself if you are so inclined. Frankly, the only medical records that get looked at are (a) financial records relating to billing fraud and (b) scripts for narcotics. No-one gives jack about vaccs records.
[–] • 5 pts

No-one gives jack about vaccs records.

I wish this were true. The school my kids went to before we home schooled harassed me non stop about vaccines for one of my kids every year, because they couldn't seem to keep up with them. They would kick them out if they couldn't get them. This was about six years ago.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

  1. Docs do shit like that all the time. And so do those that would actually administer the shot.

  2. Not if they actually go through with the electronic vaccine bullshit. The - what are they calling it - vaccine passport? The electronic record required to get in large public venues or on airplanes.

Pay some stupid tech $100 to shoot the vaccine into the sink instead of an arm, and you’ve got your dumbass record.

I don’t know if the world gets to that level of retard on this go around, but the way the masses have eaten up “the deadliest virus of all time” nonsense, I wouldn’t be surprised if we have rounds 2 and 3.

[–] • 3 pts

Forging vaccination receipts is child's play. Just do it yourself

Details on this? Where could I find one to copy?

Also, not sure about the US, but over here they're dead set on making one of those health passport things, so there'll likely be a central database.

[–] • 1 pt

I bet those opoid "pain" clinics are looking for another revenue stream. It's only a matter of time

[–] • 1 pt

If pressed: "Oh, right, I'll get it next week." Oh, I had another medical issue that is delaying my vaccine.

Careful on this one. It might weaken his case if he has to claim medical incompatibility later. Also, don't depend on pressure only coming from the employer, the feds will likely be introducing regulation requiring employers to confirm vaccination status of employees, just in case they're shy about enforcing it.

[–] • 2 pts

"I will be discussing this with my doctor soon"

Soon = some arbitrary point in the future that never comes.

[–] • 0 pt

Like I said, that's only going to work for so long. Eventually this is going to become a licencing requirement, just like fire inspections and HR emotional safety crap.

[–] • 11 pts (edited )

Buy a nice motorhome/RV and work from it if possible. Being mobile has its advantages. I'm holed up in a secret southern location as I write this, lol. It'll take a bit of research to do it right, but believe me there a lot of people that do it. I will be the last person to ever get vaccinated.

Can you even believe we are talking about this?

[–] • 2 pts

Used motorhomes are hard to find now, at least for realistic prices.

[–] • 0 pt

If you can find a good trailer you can build your own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JthaoTS5gw

[–] • 3 pts

If you find a good soldering iron you can build yer own internet

[–] • 10 pts

"employees of this organization will ALL be vaccinated."

It's not a vaccine. Employers can't require non-vaccine medical procedures.

[–] • 3 pts

Exactly, and they can't be forced if there are known existing alternatives, which is why they suppress the use of HCQ, Ivermectin and Vit. D

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

HCQ, Ivermectin and Vit. D

Irrelevant and useless. There is no "covid19" virus to even use an alternative on. None. It doesn't exist. It was such a failure of a kike bio-weapon that it naturally died off due to it's failure. To liken this to reality it's as though jews created a nigger virus and the nigger viruses just couldn't stop killing each other, and there was no White virus to sustain the nigger virus existence.

[–] • 1 pt

noun not a verb. Plural of virus is viruses

[–] • 7 pts

First, the vaccine is for emergency use only, it can't be legally enforced. Take others' advice and say nothing, or just say you got it. They can't ask for proof. The PDF for the vaccine card is floating around Poal. Use it. There's no law that states you can't fake it and your employer can't get your health records to verify it.

[–] • 7 pts (edited )

https://forunitedsolutions.org/religious-exemptions

This is the route I'm going. I am in a similar situation and they say that vaccines are a condition of employment even for remote workers.

I feel like faking it is just going to encourage it and there are already star registries in place so eventually once they get their act together they can catch you.

[–] • 4 pts

Johovahs witness can't have anything. That is always a good one to go with.

[–] • 0 pt

Not true. They are free to take it or not.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

They can't get blood to save their own life.

I just looked it up. Seems like the jews got ahold of them in 1952 and they revised their beliefs so vaccinations are ok..... Just don't take any blood or plasma to save your life.

[–] • 3 pts

Tell the bosses you cannot take vaccines for religious reasons. Make sure you get it on film or audio or paper your rejecting the vaccine on religious grounds. If they fire you you have grounds to sue.

[–] • 4 pts
[–] • 2 pts

They’ve been pushing these for years. So buckled. Some didn’t. We keep standing.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

Exactly. And you don't even need to tell them which religious denomination you're involved with, that's all personal.

Although if asked, I think it's Jehovas witness and some Baptist sects.

[–] • 1 pt

Or say you are Muslim and theyre being islamaphobic.

[–] • 0 pt

Supposedly if they even ask you can sue.

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