Thanks for the reply, I'll have to ponder that.
Notice also that those who push flat earth are as aggressive as the NASA liars in getting you to believe their offered information. This isn't about who's right or wrong; it's about them farming consent to get you into the conflict of reason; into choosing a side within a fictitious conflict.
Well, I have to admit that I have been on the side of the flat earthers in this discussion/debate. Elsewhere in the overall thread. I originally simply intended to just present the flat earth side because no one else really had, but I let myself get sucked into the (us vs them) discussion / debate.
No value tops evaluation
In order for the potential of value of evaluation to be fully realized one must expand comprehension (via experience) otherwise one's compreshension of ALL is small & limited and so too the available options one can evaluate against.
For example, if you've never seen an aurora borealis lightshow this is not apart of your evaluatable options. If you've never released your seed into a woman after an hour of passionate intimacy this is also not apart of your evalutable options.
A man who has never experienced these; who does not have/comprehend these options has lesser value (in their evalutation potential), no ? Despite both of the individuals having the ability to evaluate - one has more options; more experience and comprehension to base the evalution from.
Not trying to convey any specific point, just seeing if you concurr more or less, and perhaps elude to the implication: if free will to evaluate is our highest value then we should use action (to cause experience) to increase the foundation of what we can evaluate against. To use a money analogy, evaluation is the spending of one's credit card while our life's experiences is our credit limit.
That's selfishness. That's ignoring ONEs potential for contemplating the potential of others. Other ONEs don't define options; ALL potentiality does, and that foundation of information is what ONE ignores when wanting the potential of others. For ONEself all other ONEs represent inspiration to sustain self within ALL.
Does ONE need to experience an aurora borealis or passionate intimacy to sustain ONEself within ALL? No, but now he wants, because another ONE suggested that he had it. ...
Right, point taken - I understnad the suggestion of others for wants ie- things another has that one doesn't have that now wants - is tempation; a luring towards death as you might say.
However, let's consider another context: in whereby the ONE was not provoked by suggestion but is using previous personal experience (not from another) as the basis of evaluation (of what is possible).
Consider the example of the man who has experienced the most intense and vivid aurora borealis imagineable. He later thinks back on that experience from time to time fondly, recollecting and fantasizing about the experience. It inspires him to seek that out again; this time with friends - to share that enjoyment and inspire others. The inspiration leads to an increased level of focus throughout his daily chores/workday to get things done swiftly and effeciently to ensure there is a supply of resources readied for that trip up north to see the auroras again; the auroras have become a galvonizing inspiration. Meanwhile the boy in his basement sees only photos of the auroras on the internet - never gaining the inspiration to go see them in person.
Now replace the auroras with prior experiences with intimacy and this should drive home the example further. The 40 year old virgin who's never experienced intimacy lacks comprehension of what could be possible; he lacks inspiration to go find someone special to be intimate with and start a family. Who has greater 'ability to become inspired to improve oneself' the 40 year old virgin who's never been loved by a woman or the 40 year old man who has ?
I guess I'm trying to elude to perhaps a realization that for one to reach max potential one must 'try'. One must 'do' to know what it like to 'do' (and thus to draw inspiration from it). One must be intimate to become inspired by intimacy. Experience expands the quantity and quality of inspiration to draw upon. As you say, we are in motion; we must set actions into motion and those actions will result in experiences we can use to build our foundation of comprehension and pool of inspiration to create stronger actions; to emmanate more powerful waves outward thereafter (until we become stagnant and or lose our inspiration again; but again the one who has experienced 'more' should theoretically have a greater base of inspiration that logically would last longer than one who lived a timid life in his mom's basement).
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