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They have been suffering ever since the 2008 financial crisis.

They have stuffed the dealerships full of inventory that they didn't want or need. Now they have massive lots full of vehicles they say don't have chips.

But that would normally result in the dealerships having depleted inventory. Are we able to see this shortage or are the dealers lots still packed full of cars and trucks?

What are you guys seeing at your local dealerships? Full or empty?!

It seems like the price of used cars is extremely high right now. Like people are buying used rather than new.

This looks like a coverup of the collapse of their sales imho. What say you guys?

They have been suffering ever since the 2008 financial crisis. They have stuffed the dealerships full of inventory that they didn't want or need. Now they have massive lots full of vehicles they say don't have chips. But that would normally result in the dealerships having depleted inventory. Are we able to see this shortage or are the dealers lots still packed full of cars and trucks? What are you guys seeing at your local dealerships? Full or empty?! It seems like the price of used cars is extremely high right now. Like people are buying used rather than new. This looks like a coverup of the collapse of their sales imho. What say you guys?

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Pretty sure we’ve talked about this topic beforehand you and I. The tech side of things requiring expensive scan tools is a burden for the customer as well as the independent repair facility. Chrysler/fiat are about the worse so far needing granted access to communicate with modules and what not. Really the mid ougts to early teens had the best balance of tech and quality.

That ole straight 6 can pull a house down, but a newer v6 truck like an eco boost can do that as well as pull it down the highway.

Yes there is a problem on needing equipment to do diagnostics and repairs. The tools have changed honestly slower than the vehicles. Regardless a once a year tune up is a thing of the past. Fuel filters are not changed every six months because there are none. No worn points in a distributor, no needing for adjusting inadequate drum brakes. Yes new cars have a lot of tech ,modules that rely on each other, but for the most part 100k is the maintenance point as apposed to daily driver cars being a wash and repeat every 80k or so

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No doubt new tech has its pros, but I'd bet your spending more on repairs in the long run. If my 300 ever wears out (not likely) there are millions in junkyards for a couple hundred dollars. Just wait till that ecoboost throws its timing chain and you get to pay a dealer 7 grand because twin turbo direct inject race car tech is not a back yard fix. I will say they make good power but i just feel like it'll cost more replacing expensive parts infrequently than cheap parts occasionally. Plus old stuff sure is more fun.