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Both russia and the u.s. withdrawing embassy staff.

What do you think?

Proxy conflict?

Direct conflict?

Disguised cease fire?

Trump and the GOP were bad for russia, and DNC support has been a boon for them, with the DC regime too busy infighting or mutually masturbating with lobby money, to stop the german-russian gaspipeline.

I assume any war that did happen would be a limited conflict, designed to pad pockets, and keep the DNC in power by boosting their numbers 2022-2024, in favor of them over the less cooperative RNC right-wing arm of the marxists.

Both russia and the u.s. withdrawing embassy staff. What do you think? Proxy conflict? Direct conflict? Disguised cease fire? Trump and the GOP were bad for russia, and DNC support has been a boon for them, with the DC regime too busy infighting or mutually masturbating with lobby money, to stop the german-russian gaspipeline. I assume any war that *did* happen would be a limited conflict, designed to pad pockets, and keep the DNC in power by boosting their numbers 2022-2024, in favor of them over the less cooperative RNC right-wing arm of the marxists.

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Kiev / Ukraine is the motherland of the Russian people.

The Russians are not having a discussion with anybody other than themselves about when they are going to liberate their motherland. They did basically tell NATO to leave if they wanted to keep their soldiers.

Anyone who gets in their way is going to get whacked.

That includes NATO.

Only a very small percentage of the Ukrainian military may try to offer a token resistance to the Russian military, but even that is doubtful. They know exactly who they are dealing with, and most are actually understanding of the Russian motivation, regardless of their agreement with that position. They all know full well the American presence cannot be tolerated, so it is really just a question of time.

This means Ukrainians who oppose the Russian presence are most likely to return to hiding as civilians, or will perhaps leave the country. Direct military opposition is impossible unless death is preferred, because death is guaranteed.

After a Russian takeover, the likelihood of vicious reprisals is very high. The war thus far has been very dirty, with ethnic cleansing well documented. That is not going to go unanswered. Russians are not known for their mercy. They are known for their payback. The Ukrainian Nazis, in particular, should probably leave the country if they want to live.

NATO will most likely abandon the Ukraine to the Russians, but then use the conflict as an excuse to return to a full cold war isolation of Russia, with hopes, in particular, of forcing Europe off of Russian fuel supplies. That is one possible outcome, although another possible outcome is the collapse of both NATO and the EU. Europe must have fuel.

Russia may retaliate by returning to the gold standard, or by forming their own petro banking trade currency. This would cut Jewish banking power in half, globally, and making Russia about the most valuable nation on the planet.

Remember this, Russians are the capitalists now. They turn a profit and are not drowning in debt, unlike every Western nation.

Faggots are not running Russia either.

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Uh NATO is going to pull out and write a strongly worded letter. Nothing about the world balance of power is going to change on account of this. Some people are going to be butthurt that they look weak because they're not willing to fight Russia over this, but that's the reality. No one in the West wants to. And remember, Western Europe has almost no capability on their own. Only the extent of US intervention matters, and the US has clearly signaled that they're going to allow this with only diplomatic repercussions. I think those are economic repercussions. The USSR was isolated because they wanted to be. The US couldn't force that on Russia if they wanted to, and I don't think they want to either.

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"NATO is going to pull out and write a strongly worded letter."

But not too strongly worded.

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Nato is like 5 vaginas and the United States

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I think the US wants to return to the cold war where they get to spend the really big bucks on defense.

They've been poking and prodding the bear ever since the wall fell.

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USA wants Russia to do something stupid

Russia is waiting for USA to do something stupid

Ukraina.... is taking cover in case somebody does something stupid

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They are colluding to manage the transition from the dollar.

The same way the u.s. and russia colluded on the takedown of the soviet union.

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Need another brother war goyim

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It's been a mess since Yanukovych got forced out, even well before. The US and Russia have been playing chess in the Ukraine for more than a decade. This is not a new conflict.

Will it go hot? Maybe. But, as always, it's the third party that gets fucked in global politics. Ukrainians will die. The US and Russia will growl at each other. Life will go on.

All this talk of a nuclear exchange or full on war with NATO is nonsense. Small, contained wars make money. Global wars destroy economies. Bad for business.

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I think it's a last resort contingency plan for the administration to keep in its back pocket. In the case of an eruption of internal turmoil, like what's happening in Canada, they'll just use the external existential threat to supercede civil strife.

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I think it's a last resort contingency plan for the administration to keep in its back pocket. In the case of an eruption of internal turmoil, like what's happening in Canada, they'll just use the external existential threat to supercede civil strife.

May well be the case. What do you think is more relevant to this decision, the elections and popularity or political strife like in canada?

Seems like at this point u.s. political strife and poll numbers are one in the same with both the lead-up to the elections (2022, 2024), and the post-election reactions.

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lol, maybe it is a way to just distract people for all the horrible internal policy decisions that have choked the supply chain in the name of health care. Can't have people remembering who was sus last round when the elections are just around the corner.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Posturing by Russia to divide NATO and split the EU from the US. Russia would also benefit if they maneuvered the US into being the aggressor in a war. There is also a major NATO summit this summer and I imagine that this posturing is an attempt to dissuade Ukraine from attempting to join NATO or join a path to membership. If that ever happened, I believe Putin would invade the Ukraine, as he views it as essential to Russia's security and has publicly declared that as a red line. The US on the other hand is not a serious country and has no serious interests in Ukraine that would warrant a potential nuclear exchange with Russia. It's a lose-lose situation for the US since they are experiencing a serious lack of legitimacy after the Afghanistan defeat and now they are putting themselves in the position to either have to go to war with Russia over marginal interests, or lose even more face on the international stage when Russia doesn't invade and the US looks like an unhinged instigator.

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A couple days ago Putin flat out said he will declare war if Ukraine joins NATO. He said he knew the other NATO nations wiuld have to respond and declare war and in that case he pointed out Russia has the most nukes. He was pretty clear.

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fake

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Trump and the GOP were bad for russia

Trump and the RNC directly enabled the pandemic narrative (by declaring an emergency), and stood down for the DNC/DSA's coup of the u.s.

They were great for russia.

I hope every last one of the RNC dies in fiery accidents right along with their democrat colleagues and the executives of every major broadcaster, tech company, and more importantly the executives of the major u.s. banks.