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I watched 3 hours of Europa the final battle and in the doc he said that hitler invaded Poland as a retaliation for Bloody Sunday. The doc also claims that this massacre was essentially orchestrated by Jews in order to get Germany to start ww2.

Bloody Sunday was when polish people massacred the German minority in Poland. This happened on the 3rd of September.

Now from literally every image and source I can gather, germany invaded Poland on September 1st. I have not found a single newspaper image or article or book that is different from this date.

This would mean that the poles actually killed the Germans in response to the invasion. This is a big issue because it essentially eviscerates all credibility this doc has for me.

If the film maker can brazenly lie about something so easy to find out is bullshit, then how the fuck am I supposed to take any of this serious?

Please feel free to show me any evidence you have that Poland killed the Germans BEFORE hitler invaded. Otherwise I think I have been severely brainwashed.

I watched 3 hours of Europa the final battle and in the doc he said that hitler invaded Poland as a retaliation for Bloody Sunday. The doc also claims that this massacre was essentially orchestrated by Jews in order to get Germany to start ww2. Bloody Sunday was when polish people massacred the German minority in Poland. This happened on the 3rd of September. Now from literally every image and source I can gather, germany invaded Poland on September 1st. I have not found a single newspaper image or article or book that is different from this date. This would mean that the poles actually killed the Germans in response to the invasion. This is a big issue because it essentially eviscerates all credibility this doc has for me. If the film maker can brazenly lie about something so easy to find out is bullshit, then how the fuck am I supposed to take any of this serious? Please feel free to show me any evidence you have that Poland killed the Germans BEFORE hitler invaded. Otherwise I think I have been severely brainwashed.

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I found this: https://www.unz.com/article/why-germany-invaded-poland/

It states Germans were being killed before Bloody Sunday. It also explains the shit poland was doing to Germans.

The comments also point out many of the sources come from a singular “historical” source

This shit is fucked. It’s really fucking hard to find actual historical facts anywhere.

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>On August 7, 1939, the Polish censors permitted the newspaper Illustrowany Kuryer Codzienny in Kraków to feature an article of unprecedented candor. The article stated that Polish units were constantly crossing the German frontier to destroy German military installations and to carry captured German military materiel into Poland. The Polish government failed to prevent the newspaper, which had the largest circulation in Poland, from telling the world that Poland was instigating a series of violations of Germany’s frontier with Poland.[33

How bout that.

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Roosevelt,. lying dog knew that those mutt poles started shit at Danzig, no surprise.

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True. Wars are chaotic, so timelines are hard to establish in terms of what happened when or what triggered the other.

There was also the Gleiwitz Incident, in which a German radio station was attacked on August 31. It was later labeled a “false flag” due to the testimony of an SS at Nuremberg, which we all know was a totally honest and above board proceeding.

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many contemporary "sources" are simply not credible. most confessions made at the nuremburg trial were either gotten by torture, duress, or threatening the persons family members. hitlers speeches also offer a great deal of clarity. we are fighting against a narrative built on lies. when you understand the simple fact that hitler did not want war, and only fought back when he absolutely had to, things get easier to figure out. go with your gut.

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most confessions made at the nuremburg trial were either gotten by torture

Reminder that something like over half of the Germans who confessed at Nuremburg had CRUSHED TESTICLES.

Yeah, that's how you get a man to admit to gassing people in a shower room, you fucking pop their balls one at a time until they agree to say what you want them to.

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fucking ghastly behavior on the americans part.. no excuse.

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Or the Brits...

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They omit a lot of stuff too.

Hitler got funding out of ny from the same international bankers who funded the communists.

While Hitler was openly building up his military the world says they didn't know, while they funded him and obtained international help in doing so. What are the implications?

Hitler was in secret talks with GB and America. This is well documented. No one talks about it.

The EU today was Hitler's vision for Europe.

Hitler actively worked with Zionist Jews and brokered deals.

Hitler's personal driver and friend was a Jew. His personal doctor was a Jew. His family doctor was a Jew whom he called a Nobel Jew.

The communists helped build part of Hitler's war machines and provided steel to build navy ships.

Any documentary omitting facts is propaganda. Lots of propaganda on both ends of the spectrum. Think about the obvious implications and why so many tiny brains implode on this fact.

You can see for yourself today who controls the brownshirts, communists, and (Ukraine and US) nazi's (Jews and feds).

Hitler retired in South America and the CIA, FBI, and Mossad knew it. They allowed him to retire. Think about that.

Hitler's outcome was a brother war and the murder of millions Aryans and Christians. Christianity never recovered. The allies killed almost all Christians in Japan - the largest collection of Christians and church in all of Asia. Jewish global population grew significantly.

Jews become very angry when facts are presented.

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What does your gut tell you?

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NSDAP Germany DID NOT invade poland. What happened was (My loose rememberance) after the (((treaty of Versailles))) from WW1 Germany was split into 3 parts and the middle part which connected the two outer parts was given to... Czecho...? from whence Germans were raped tortured and murdered by them and Poles. Hitler said no and freed this stolen part of Germany. That's the "invasion" that wasn't an invasion.

Watch TGSNT

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Wrong. I'm Czech and there was nothing given to us. Fuck, you American idiots don't know any history. Nothing was "stolen" from Germany. Was not Moravia assimilated into the Austrian Hungarian Empire? We were the ones that had land stolen. After WW1 we became a country again called Czechoslovakia. If anything our country was smaller than before the Austrian Hungarian Empire. Here is a graphic representation of the borders in Europe look at Bohemia and Moravia (we still have provinces in Czech called Moravia, Bohemia and Silesia: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/2400-years-of-european-history/ Hitler was mad at Pollacks for the loss of the Teutonic Knights in the Battle of Grunwald or Tannenberg in 1410. This was a major loss of Germanic people and if it went the other way we would be speaking German all the way to Russia today.

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Good points, but the Germans did not draw the lines after WWI. Czechoslavakia did have a robust arms industry though, especially the Brno factory, and the 35t & 38t tanks.

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I'm glad you know about the Czech arms industry. Yeah my family comes from that area around Brno. Bohemia and Moravia were basically under the thumb of the the Habsburgs which ruled Austria from 1282 until 1918. After WW1 Czechs started building a defense line of special fortified and cleverly designed bunkers around our border with Germany. When Hitler walked into Czechoslovakia he used our weapons to arm 33 divisions of Wehrmacht. He new that if he had to fight against Czechs his war would be over before it started because although Czechs would eventually be overrun the losses to the Wehrmacht would be too high to continue onto Poland and then France. In fact there is a recount that Hitler personally was overseeing the destruction attempts of our bunkers. When none of his tank rounds or even direct aircraft bombing's would destroy the bunker he was quite angry. He underestimated the strength and robust design and the ways the bunker was protected against infiltration. Czechs never murdered any Germans and Hitler had no right to invade Czechoslovakia. Yes there were Germans living in Czech left over from the Austrian Hungarian Empire but so what? Czechs fought alongside Germans in WW1, in fact my great grandfather was one of those people. It would be the same as Mexico invading the Southern parts of the USA because their are many Mexicans living there. Also Hitler lied because he took over our whole country, not just Sudetenland.

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watch this vid, it documents well the silesian issue in 1921 and how poles even then were doing such acts: https://youtu.be/HwDAorQnd4U

like you however i've never seen proof of the claim of the 50k massacre, but you can see in the vid above which is historical fact that something pretty close to it happened, but the numbers are likely exaggerated.

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Germany put out a document soon after the invasion was over detailing Polish atrocities. They showed many pictures of civilians killed brutally (bayonets, bludgeoning, bullets, etc) and in advanced states of decay (predating the invasion). They've also told several stories of civilians rounded up and death marched at the beginning of the war all the way to the east of the country. Finally, at least one British diplomat mentioned rough treatment of civilians prior to the war breaking out.

White paper: https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/atrocities/pagmp000.html

Could the atrocities be fake? Sure. We've just got their word for it. Everyone in the west ignored it, and post war hundreds of thousands of books were burned by the Allies occupying Germany. Nearly every German that had been living in disputed territory was ethnically cleansed, exiled or killed. Even today it's illegal in Germany and Poland to produce apologia in any form for the 3rd Reich. Could they be real? I'd say there's a high chance.

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The territory and the population switched very often there. Look at the maps and the development from 1900 on. I read a book once, where the mistreatment of the germans by the polish have been explained in more detail and shit didn't start with hitler only, but way before. Also don't forget that poland had got allied military guarantees for support in case of an attack and they might have felt save to fuck with the germans because of a false sense of security. So, if the stuff I've read in that book long time ago is true, germans on polish territory lived in real danger way before 1939.

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