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I've become much better at forgiving and I feel it has helped heal my spirit. There are those that I don't feel deserve forgiveness like pedophiles, but I've found a loophole by just not considering them human. Not to insult by comparing them, but when a dog does something bad like kill or be degenerate, I don't blame the dog because it's an animal, and therefore doesnt need forgiveness, they need training or to be put down (in the case the dog mauled a child or killed another pet or human, only put dogs down for serious agregences.).

But I feel there's some people that hit closer to home, like close friends or family that you came to love and respect, that have done something horrible or wrong to us that could be forgiven, but we could not bring ourselves to do it because it was a serious offence. For example, if your family abandoned you because of the COVID Scam but are trying to re-associate with you acting like nothing happened.

How can you forgive something like that, or how do you handle the internal struggle something like that must cause?

(Note, I am not personally struggling with this particular problem, but I do think it's an important subject that a lot of people struggle with and it needs to be discussed) (Edit: grammar)

I've become much better at forgiving and I feel it has helped heal my spirit. There are those that I don't feel deserve forgiveness like pedophiles, but I've found a loophole by just not considering them human. Not to insult by comparing them, but when a dog does something bad like kill or be degenerate, I don't blame the dog because it's an animal, and therefore doesnt need forgiveness, they need training or to be put down (in the case the dog mauled a child or killed another pet or human, only put dogs down for serious agregences.). But I feel there's some people that hit closer to home, like close friends or family that you came to love and respect, that have done something horrible or wrong to us that could be forgiven, but we could not bring ourselves to do it because it was a serious offence. For example, if your family abandoned you because of the COVID Scam but are trying to re-associate with you acting like nothing happened. How can you forgive something like that, or how do you handle the internal struggle something like that must cause? (Note, I am not personally struggling with this particular problem, but I do think it's an important subject that a lot of people struggle with and it needs to be discussed) (Edit: grammar)

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[–] [deleted] • 2 pts (edited )

I really like the way you broke this down. I think I've read these verses, but so long ago I didnt have the right perspective. I do find this interpretation of forgiveness the most sensible and intuitive version I've heard to date. Pastors of churches always going on about how you should just keep forgiving because if God wants to He will handle it.

People dont seem to remember God uses his people to perform actions on His behalf, but maybe I've got that wrong. But I also don't think God meant for His people to just stand around while He smites all the pedophiles with lightning. We are the lightning!

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Pastors of churches always going on about how you should just keep forgiving because if God wants to He will handle it.

Christian churches have become extremely feminized over the past 50 years. Which isn't to throw shade at women. If you delivered fire and brimstone the second time your toddler spilled a glass of milk, none of us would have made it out of childhood. A great deal of forgiveness for accidental mistakes is crucial to childrearing. Extending that same level of female sympathy to adults is a grave mistake, and one well-intentioned churches have fallen into.

And if you doubt that Christian churches have become feminized, look at the audience. It's disproportionately female now because "forgiveness without repentance" only resonates if you're raising toddlers.