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This shit pisses me off. People who believe this hold the position that the cruelty in "regular" meat is not okay.

These people's logic: "It's okay to needlessly kill animals, but it's not okay to needlessly torture them"

This shit pisses me off. People who believe this hold the position that the cruelty in "regular" meat is not okay. These people's logic: "It's okay to needlessly kill animals, but it's not okay to needlessly torture them"

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Do insects count? Small rodents? Where does sentience begin, as you have already said bacteria and plants are okay to kill.

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Rodents, definitely. Insects are debatable. Most vegans err on the side of caution with insects.