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For anyone who believes the Earth is flat I am not here to say you fell for a psyop, call you names, or insult you in general. I just have a few questions and observations I would like to have addressed. I am being respectful so please do the same.

1) I hear many people who are flat earth believers say sunrise and sunsets are perspective. My question, why is it if when you use a solar filter on a camera you can photograph the sun from sunrise to sunset you can clearly observe the sun come from behind a physical barrier, stay the same size, and then disappear bottom up behind a physical barrier? If the Earth were flat the sun is small and local, the sun should change size as it moves farther away from observer but this is not what is observed.

2) when walking cross country, why is it if I use compass, walk one mile, turn 60 degrees, walk one more, turn 60 degrees, and walk a third mile ibwill not end up near where I began. But doing the same thing with 90bdegree turns inl donl end up back where I started? If the earth were flat why would I need to make a triangle with internal angles equal to 270 degrees as opposed to 180 degrees?

3) why is it objects, regardless of their mass all accelerate at the exact same rate towards the earth when dropped? [Note you can't say density as density isn't a force and cannot give objects a vector and you cannot say buoyancy as to calculate buoyancy you have to factor in gravity]

4) why is it a pendulum drifts differently based on you position on earth?

5) why does Earth have an atmospheric pressure gradient starting at 14.7 psi and gradually decreasing as you gain elevation eventually reaching near 0? If the earth were contained then the gas particles would be hitting a physical barrier like the flat earth claims to be why do we not have a uniform pressure regardless of altitude?

6) why does every gyroscope on every aircraft all detect a 15 degree per hour drift regardless of it they're moving or stationary? [Note you can't claim its detecting the movement of the sky as the gyros are sealed and can't detect movement of the sky]

7) what would be the reason to lie about the shape of the Earth? [Note you can't say to make us turn from God, as of 2019 nearly 71% of all adults on the planet believe in a God or afterlife, most of those being Abrahamic religions so clearly this can't be the case]

8) why does a compass built in the northern hemisphere not work in the southern?

Again not being a dick I just want a real, scientifically based, intelligent answers, not the Bible says this, or this ancient culture believed this.

here is the post.

For anyone who believes the Earth is flat I am not here to say you fell for a psyop, call you names, or insult you in general. I just have a few questions and observations I would like to have addressed. I am being respectful so please do the same. 1) I hear many people who are flat earth believers say sunrise and sunsets are perspective. My question, why is it if when you use a solar filter on a camera you can photograph the sun from sunrise to sunset you can clearly observe the sun come from behind a physical barrier, stay the same size, and then disappear bottom up behind a physical barrier? If the Earth were flat the sun is small and local, the sun should change size as it moves farther away from observer but this is not what is observed. 2) when walking cross country, why is it if I use compass, walk one mile, turn 60 degrees, walk one more, turn 60 degrees, and walk a third mile ibwill not end up near where I began. But doing the same thing with 90bdegree turns inl donl end up back where I started? If the earth were flat why would I need to make a triangle with internal angles equal to 270 degrees as opposed to 180 degrees? 3) why is it objects, regardless of their mass all accelerate at the exact same rate towards the earth when dropped? [Note you can't say density as density isn't a force and cannot give objects a vector and you cannot say buoyancy as to calculate buoyancy you have to factor in gravity] 4) why is it a pendulum drifts differently based on you position on earth? 5) why does Earth have an atmospheric pressure gradient starting at 14.7 psi and gradually decreasing as you gain elevation eventually reaching near 0? If the earth were contained then the gas particles would be hitting a physical barrier like the flat earth claims to be why do we not have a uniform pressure regardless of altitude? 6) why does every gyroscope on every aircraft all detect a 15 degree per hour drift regardless of it they're moving or stationary? [Note you can't claim its detecting the movement of the sky as the gyros are sealed and can't detect movement of the sky] 7) what would be the reason to lie about the shape of the Earth? [Note you can't say to make us turn from God, as of 2019 nearly 71% of all adults on the planet believe in a God or afterlife, most of those being Abrahamic religions so clearly this can't be the case] 8) why does a compass built in the northern hemisphere not work in the southern? Again not being a dick I just want a real, scientifically based, intelligent answers, not the Bible says this, or this ancient culture believed this. @Joe_Jaywalker here is the post.

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[–] • 5 pts

I've flown from Los Angeles to Melbourne Australia. 15 hour flight. On clear days if you're in a window seat you see the spherical form of the Earth and at no point do you suddenly flip over since the Southern hemisphere is a completely different climate.

Won't even consider flat Earth rants as real and I am a conspiracy theorist.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

That's not even accounting for the time difference the jet lag produces. You can use relatively simple math that uses the values of average flight speed, and average degree of latitude of flight path, contrasted against the longitudinal point of departure and point of arrival. There are slightly more complex formulas for extra precision.

The distances between and local time differences of both points will match the Globe model, whereas plugging the flight data into the Flat Earth model will net a result off by a factor of 2.5!

I can only conclude that all flat earthers fit into two camps: Willfully ignorant retards and disinformation shills.

[–] • 0 pt

huh? What map system are you using? If you assume the earth is a perfect sphere your calculations will be off every single time.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Yes, the Earth is an oblong sphere, but it's not really enough to skew the results. The fact that the calculations involve longitude and lattitude makes it quite accurate.

[–] • 2 pts

You mean empirical evidence and observation is more important than unrelated thought experimenta?

That's heretical according to the FEers here.

[–] • 0 pt

That's not empirical evidence.

[–] • 1 pt

Lol, you can’t see curvature from an airplane moron. Even Black Science Man says you can’t see curvature from 120,000 feet let alone 30,000.

You pompous retards don’t even understand your own bullshit well enough to regurgitate it.

I’ve been on a airplane plenty of times and it looks completely fucking flat the entire time. Not only that, but the horizon rises to meet your eye level instead of dropping away in all directions as it would on a globe.

SMH

[–] • 0 pt

I've flown at 44k feet several times, on clear days I cannot see the curvature of the earth.

[–] • 0 pt

So the Earth is one large flat plank and the Southern Hemisphere is below the Northern one and an airplane needs to do an incredible nosedive and turn to get to the bottom and ships kind of float off like they've hit a massive waterfall?

The 2 completely opposite climates means ones on the bottom and ones on the top with the flat Earth theory.

[–] • 0 pt

So the Earth is one large flat plank

If that's what you want it to be, who am I to argue, I don't have the same opinion.

and the Southern Hemisphere is below the Northern one

That's one way, but not the true way of looking at it.

and an airplane needs to do an incredible nosedive and turn to get to the bottom and ships kind of float off like they've hit a massive waterfall?

I don't get where you came to that conclusion, but that sounds pretty nutty and not at all what I believe, and it's even crazier to think that you simply assume what others believe. Before we go any further, we should find a common ground and not rely on assumptions.