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Then judges probably should not issue no contact orders for people accused of crimes.

If being around loved ones is beneficial, the no contact orders makes it bail jumping if you violate it.

I don't quite get how they can justify placing any restrictions on who you can associate with simply for being accused of something. An accusation is easy to make, yet it is all it takes to have your freedom of association restricted, as well as firearm possession, and alcohol consumption, all because of an accusation. Just does not sit well with me

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The same way they can incarcerate you before conviction. There's a clear and present danger if you associate with them, or there's a chance you'll reoffend or collaborate with a person charged in the same crime with you.

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LoL Wasn't that one of the founding principles of this nation, that people should not be incarcerated before conviction?

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No. No, they've been doing that since day one. In fact, they used to hold more people in jail prior to conviction than they do now. Bail and bond are fairly new in our history. They'd even hold you in matters of debt and other petty offenses.