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Once again, it's time for the FNGT!

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**Once again, it's time for the FNGT!** If you don't know how this works, [click this link](https://fngt.gq/index.php?page=intro). That link will take you to another site to give you some additional information and tell you about some of our off-site features. That's also the site where we will host the weekly guitar threads, should Poal go down. **NOTE:** That site is by invitation only. If you want an invite, and you're a regular participant, then just ask Crazy, or myself. If you do know what's going on, you probably don't need to click that link - but you may want to, to make sure you know of the other features, such as the archive or a separate forum that's invite only. Remember, we are guests here on Poal. Let's act like it. If you're interested in supporting Poal, then [you can donate](https://poal.co/donate).

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Right on! I've been meaning to get around to learning Linux haha

I used to help a sibling run a mobile car detailing business in the past. We would do everything from clay bars, polishes, ceramic coatings, interior steam cleaning, leather restoration, etc. We would also use good quality products that we've tested in the past with whatever the job was. Between the both of us, we had over 2 decades of experience doing this type of work, so we could tell what a good or bad detailing job looked like.

Oftentimes when we would get a potential new client asking for a clay bar + a ceramic coating/sealant or something of that nature. Us knowing how many hours the job would take to do properly after taking a look at the condition of the car, would often get haggled when we gave the client our price to do the job.

Even after thoroughly explaining the process of what we would do, the cost of the products we use, and the amount of time it would take to do the job properly, some of them would still try to come up with an excuse as to why they should get a discount. We just had to learn to start saying no to jobs a lot of times haha

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LOL Now that's something I pay very well for. If you're detailing one of my cars, even though it was pretty close to spotless, I expect it to take you a couple of days. Just a few months ago I paid four figures to get my GT3 RS detailed.

I don't think people realize how expensive it should be.

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Haha! Exactly! Anytime we have a ceramic job, it always takes us a few days. Too bad you're not on the west coast, I wouldn't mind your business lol! Here's a few nice cars we've done where we didn't get haggled! The last link is a boat. In my experience, people who own boats never tend to haggle which is nice, probably because boats are already so expensive to maintain lol. Also, doing a gel coat on a boat is much easier than some of the stuff we have to do on cars imo. There is just a lot more surface area to cover!

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You do boats too, I see?

And, yeah, I pay a proper price for a proper job. Though I usually don't want my tires shiny. I just don't like the look.

I'm retired and financially independent. Over the past few years, I've moved a bunch of investment money into the collector car market. I've done quite well with it, from a financial point of view. The good thing about collector cars is that they're never worth less than you paid for them at an auction. The value only goes up - unless you bought during a bubble, like the pickup truck bubble.