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Once again, it's time for the FNGT!

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**Once again, it's time for the FNGT!** If you don't know how this works, [click this link](https://fngt.gq/index.php?page=intro). That link will take you to another site to give you some additional information and tell you about some of our off-site features. That's also the site where we will host the weekly guitar threads, should Poal go down. **NOTE:** That site is by invitation only. If you want an invite, and you're a regular participant, then just ask Crazy, or myself. If you do know what's going on, you probably don't need to click that link - but you may want to, to make sure you know of the other features, such as the archive or a separate forum that's invite only. Remember, we are guests here on Poal. Let's act like it. If you're interested in supporting Poal, then [you can donate](https://poal.co/donate).

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Wonder since going to arch will they remove systemd as well for security? That ill look into now my linux fever is hot again lol thanks

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I don't really see systemd as a security issue but that's 'cause I understand it. It's just a giant, bloated init system with some great features. By itself, it's pretty harmless. The FUD out there about it is just astounding. There's a reason every major distro uses it - and lo and behold, those systems are not insecure. Not only that, it's reliable - reliable enough for mission critical applications including being used in space for vital components. Hell, systemd is even on Mars.

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mostly wanting to see if the system runs better with out the "bloatware" they say systmd is and my system is quite faster i will say. need do system speed test but dont wanna change os so much on the ssd dont wanna do to many read and writes lol life span freak i guess

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There are a couple of legitimate complaints, such as the way it stores logs in binary format and how it deals with errors in stdout.

Then, there's the bit about how it defies the 'UNIX philosophy' - which is, "do one thing - and do it well". systemd is nothing like that. It's a giant, bloated piece of init software that has incorporated all sorts of shit it didn't need - including DNS. Why an init system is dealing with DNS, I do not know...

But... I actually like it. I know how to use it for many things and it just fucking works. Even if I were aiming for a lighter system, avoiding 'bloatware', I'd probably still include systemd - because it kills all sorts of birds with one stone. Until 18.04, Lubuntu was a 'lightweight' distro and it used systemd from like version 12.04. It's still pretty light, but that's no longer the key focus of the distro.

It's kinda cool (on that subject). I get to help dictate the direction Lubuntu goes. I get to help decide what changes are made, what's incorporated, and how it is presented to the public. To a lesser extent, simply because of my 'newness' and lack of history with the distro, I get to make choices like that with Ubuntu - but I really don't have the time to concentrate on more than just Lubuntu and my other projects.

Also, a modern SSD can handle more writes than you're gonna put on it in a decade. The earlier SSDs had some issues, but so long as you're doing a regular TRIM, you should be good with longevity.

Put it this way, Backblaze uses SSDs in some applications (where it's not mostly static storage). If you know anything about them and their annual reports about drive longevity (considered the industry standard) then I'd highly suggest looking 'em up. They store a whole lot of stuff (for other companies) and do periodic reports about drive longevity and other metrics.

Now, it's true that an SSD is gonna fail earlier than an HDD (especially today's modern HDD), it's got millions of writes before it reaches the MTBF.

LOL I say this 'cause, well, I have to...

I was a very, very early adopter of SSD tech. So, I gotta defend 'em!

If you have a data center with long-term static storage - or storage that can be written to slowly - an HDD is still superior.

For your home user? Your SSD is gonna last you a decade. I have some early SSDs that still haven't failed.

I gotta stand up for my SSDs!

Also...

DUDE!!!!!

Have you used the 'new' NVMe M.2 SSDs?!? I will never use anything but those from now on - until something better comes along.

Holy balls!

After filling out the information to install, the installation of Lubuntu 20.04 (the part where it writes data to your drive) took less than four minutes. I didn't believe it, so I did it a second time.

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Oh, and we swung by your Guitar chat but nobody was there. Crazy showed up for a bit. It was just a brief interaction.

Thanks for making the room - it was a good idea for when the site's down.