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**Once again, it's time for the FNGT!** If you don't know how this works, [click this link](https://fngt.gq/index.php?page=intro). That link will take you to another site to give you some additional information and tell you about some of our off-site features. That's also the site where we will host the weekly guitar threads, should Poal go down. **NOTE:** That site is by invitation only. If you want an invite, and you're a regular participant, then just ask Crazy, or myself. If you do know what's going on, you probably don't need to click that link - but you may want to, to make sure you know of the other features, such as the archive or a separate forum that's invite only. Remember, we are guests here on Poal. Let's act like it. If you're interested in supporting Poal, then [you can donate](https://poal.co/donate).

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beginners do not know what perfect set up is. As long as they can play it reasonably and it will stay in tune then it will get used. I think a beginner would make the assumption that to get a guitar that plays easier or better is only a matter of laying more for it and the cheap ones are what they are

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beginners do not know what perfect set up is.

That's pretty much my point. It'd be my job to teach them - and to do so early on. Playing on a guitar that's poorly set up sucks and makes it a shitty experience for a new player.

My last student, Biff, I had setting up her first guitar and restringing and maintaining all the guitars she touched (plus mine) after just a few weeks. You can make a cheap guitar play better - even well - with some setup work. There are people who specialize in buying cheap guitars, throwing a setup on them, and selling them at a profit. That's literally all they do - is resell cheap instruments that they've made playable. (Not just guitars, normally. They'll do ukes, banjos, bass guitar, and the likes.)

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yeah but they only can play so good, they're never going to play like a masterbuilt guitar

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A properly set up guitar makes 'em play better.

A good guitar player can pick up most any guitar and make it play lovely. A new guitarist hasn't got that experience.

It's a really simple process to set up a guitar - if you have the proper tools. (I don't have the tools down here.)

All ya gotta do is pay attention. You use the ruler to set up the action. You use the tools to set up the intonation. You use the longer ruler to check the neck's straightness (and you can do the capo on the 1st fret and ruler trick). You use the short straightedge to cover three frets at once to check for rocking (that's why it's called a rocker). If it rocks, you dress the right fret(s), sand, and polish the frets. You check the nut to ensure there's no string binding - and there will be some. So, you file to the side without filing down - only filing down if you really fucking need to.

etc...

I can teach someone to use every one of those tools in an hour. Then, they have no excuses for not having a properly set up AND maintained guitar.