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Once again, it's time for the FNGT!

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**Once again, it's time for the FNGT!** If you don't know how this works, [click this link](https://fngt.gq/index.php?page=intro). That link will take you to another site to give you some additional information and tell you about some of our off-site features. That's also the site where we will host the weekly guitar threads, should Poal go down. **NOTE:** That site is by invitation only. If you want an invite, and you're a regular participant, then just ask Crazy, or myself. If you do know what's going on, you probably don't need to click that link - but you may want to, to make sure you know of the other features, such as the archive or a separate forum that's invite only. Remember, we are guests here on Poal. Let's act like it. If you're interested in supporting Poal, then [you can donate](https://poal.co/donate).

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[–] • 0 pt

Yeah, but I want the guitars to have perfect action, perfect frets, a perfect nut that doesn't bind, etc...

Plus I'm starting with guitars that may need some set up.

Personally, I'd advise a new guitar player to not just buy such a kit, I'd teach them how to use it. Along with understanding your guitar, you should know how to maintain it so that it plays just as good twenty years later.

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beginners do not know what perfect set up is. As long as they can play it reasonably and it will stay in tune then it will get used. I think a beginner would make the assumption that to get a guitar that plays easier or better is only a matter of laying more for it and the cheap ones are what they are

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beginners do not know what perfect set up is.

That's pretty much my point. It'd be my job to teach them - and to do so early on. Playing on a guitar that's poorly set up sucks and makes it a shitty experience for a new player.

My last student, Biff, I had setting up her first guitar and restringing and maintaining all the guitars she touched (plus mine) after just a few weeks. You can make a cheap guitar play better - even well - with some setup work. There are people who specialize in buying cheap guitars, throwing a setup on them, and selling them at a profit. That's literally all they do - is resell cheap instruments that they've made playable. (Not just guitars, normally. They'll do ukes, banjos, bass guitar, and the likes.)

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yeah but they only can play so good, they're never going to play like a masterbuilt guitar