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In my quest to do the opposite of official government health advice, I have recently started tobacco.

Cigars in particular, are sublime.

Most of the harm from smoking is from the tobacco treatment (ammonia) and toxins they add such as flame retardants, anti-mold, etc.

From my research it seems the benefits outweigh the negatives:

With cigars, you do not inhale through the lungs, so you get the benefits of tobacco and nicotine trans-salivary

Despite the demonization of tobacco one thing is for sure - smokers have higher androgen and lower estrogen levels than non-smokers.

Pure organic tobacco, smoked through an activated charcoal filter is probably not nearly as bad and may even be.. healthy?

Besides keeping stress hormones and estrogen low, raising T and being neuro-protective, tobacco also has anti parasitic effects.

So I ordered some organic cigars and smoked these during my 5 day parasite cleanse, in which I drank only juices (I expelled some weird things).

Coming from a bioenergetic perspective I think such cleanses can be stressful on the body.

On the 2nd day of juicing I felt stressed so I lit my first cigar. My temperature and heart-rate went up and within minutes a calm came over me.

I believe the boost in Testosterone is not just from the Nicotine. There are 100’s of chemicals in cigars that likely have many different beneficial effects.

Just as the Sun is not just red light. Coffee is not just caffeine. Tobacco is not just nicotine.

There are small attributes to each ingredient that play a symbiotic role.

It is said that by the turn of the last century 1 in 4 men smoked cigars.

This was not made by me and the credits go to the the person who is active elsewhere. I decided not to share any links as it might compromise my privacy, but this information is valuable and it would be a shame not to share it. --------- **Now here is the copy/paste of the post:** >In my quest to do the opposite of official government health advice, I have recently started tobacco. >Cigars in particular, are sublime. >Most of the harm from smoking is from the tobacco treatment (ammonia) and toxins they add such as flame retardants, anti-mold, etc. >From my research it seems the benefits outweigh the negatives: >[anti-parasitic](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2012.11952#:~:text=Lining%20nests%20with%20material%20from,help%20keep%20out%20parasitic%20mites.&text=Stuffing%20cigarette%20butts%20into%20the%20lining%20of%20nests%20may%20seem%20unwholesome.) >[increased Testosterone levels by 15%](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17163954/) >[Lowers estrogen (Aromatase inhibiting)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5983576/) >[Increases metabolism by 7-15% (Peaty)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3195407/) >[neuroprotective (60% reduced risk of Parkinson)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1125458/) >[aids with digestion](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2201475/Doctors-dont-know-best-Student-claims-cured-debilitating-bowel-disease-taking-smoking.html) >[good against “covid”](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7192087/) >[1-2 cigars daily basically 0 risk of cancer](https://crmarketing.biz/blog/fda-study-cancer-risks-nearly-nil-for-1-2-cigars-per-day/) >With cigars, you do not inhale through the lungs, so you get the benefits of tobacco and nicotine trans-salivary >Despite the demonization of tobacco one thing is for sure - smokers have higher androgen and lower estrogen levels than non-smokers. >Pure organic tobacco, smoked through an activated charcoal filter is probably not nearly as bad and may even be.. healthy? >Besides keeping stress hormones and estrogen low, raising T and being neuro-protective, tobacco also has anti parasitic effects. >So I ordered some organic cigars and smoked these during my 5 day parasite cleanse, in which I drank only juices (I expelled some weird things). >Coming from a bioenergetic perspective I think such cleanses can be stressful on the body. >On the 2nd day of juicing I felt stressed so I lit my first cigar. My temperature and heart-rate went up and within minutes a calm came over me. >I believe the boost in Testosterone is not just from the Nicotine. There are 100’s of chemicals in cigars that likely have many different beneficial effects. >Just as the Sun is not just red light. Coffee is not just caffeine. Tobacco is not just nicotine. >There are small attributes to each ingredient that play a symbiotic role. >It is said that by the turn of the last century 1 in 4 men smoked cigars.

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[–] • 4 pts (edited )

Hey, it's possible, but this advice gives most people a nicotine addiction. That addiction will very quickly move from cigars to cigarettes/vaping etc out of convenience when they have a nicotine fit and no cigars handy.

Nicotine addictions are fucking horrible to kick and the cravings remain for years even after quitting. They are also expensive as fuck. Not a great way to be healthy.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

vaping is such a bad idea. I know you're not endorsing it but let me just say: Vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol, the two main ingredients of vape juice, are in the MSDS as harmful chemicals that needs attention when it gets on your skin. That is certainly not something you want in your lungs and is a pale comparison to naturally grown tobacco

[–] • 1 pt

Imagine that, looks like I got lucky there. Quitting for me was just throwing the pack in the trash and chewing on toothpicks for a week. I've even had days before when I wouldn't feel like smoking so I wouldn't for a few days.

The benefit I would get from smoking is that it would completely free me from accumulated stress and give me focus and wakefulness to keep going, if I had easy relaxing weekends I wouldn't even remember to smoke during that time. Every time even years after quitting when I'm working through a burnout (as I am now) my mind tells me "would be good to light one right now".

[–] • 0 pt

True, it would require self control, but it can be a useful substance if you can source all natural stuff.

[–] • 6 pts (edited )

I think it's genetic. That shit rewires my brain into addiction after just a few uses. Yes, I can force myself to quit, but it takes all my focus and mental energy to do it for two weeks while going through physical withdrawal roller coaster of shaking, nausea, chills, headaches, and inability to concentrate. Then there's a year relapse period where you are not really out of the woods. Other people barely even notice and can just quit. Lucky bastards.

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That other comment was supposed to be a reply to this one.