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Tobacco Pill

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In my quest to do the opposite of official government health advice, I have recently started tobacco.

Cigars in particular, are sublime.

Most of the harm from smoking is from the tobacco treatment (ammonia) and toxins they add such as flame retardants, anti-mold, etc.

From my research it seems the benefits outweigh the negatives:

With cigars, you do not inhale through the lungs, so you get the benefits of tobacco and nicotine trans-salivary

Despite the demonization of tobacco one thing is for sure - smokers have higher androgen and lower estrogen levels than non-smokers.

Pure organic tobacco, smoked through an activated charcoal filter is probably not nearly as bad and may even be.. healthy?

Besides keeping stress hormones and estrogen low, raising T and being neuro-protective, tobacco also has anti parasitic effects.

So I ordered some organic cigars and smoked these during my 5 day parasite cleanse, in which I drank only juices (I expelled some weird things).

Coming from a bioenergetic perspective I think such cleanses can be stressful on the body.

On the 2nd day of juicing I felt stressed so I lit my first cigar. My temperature and heart-rate went up and within minutes a calm came over me.

I believe the boost in Testosterone is not just from the Nicotine. There are 100’s of chemicals in cigars that likely have many different beneficial effects.

Just as the Sun is not just red light. Coffee is not just caffeine. Tobacco is not just nicotine.

There are small attributes to each ingredient that play a symbiotic role.

It is said that by the turn of the last century 1 in 4 men smoked cigars.

This was not made by me and the credits go to the the person who is active elsewhere. I decided not to share any links as it might compromise my privacy, but this information is valuable and it would be a shame not to share it. --------- **Now here is the copy/paste of the post:** >In my quest to do the opposite of official government health advice, I have recently started tobacco. >Cigars in particular, are sublime. >Most of the harm from smoking is from the tobacco treatment (ammonia) and toxins they add such as flame retardants, anti-mold, etc. >From my research it seems the benefits outweigh the negatives: >[anti-parasitic](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2012.11952#:~:text=Lining%20nests%20with%20material%20from,help%20keep%20out%20parasitic%20mites.&text=Stuffing%20cigarette%20butts%20into%20the%20lining%20of%20nests%20may%20seem%20unwholesome.) >[increased Testosterone levels by 15%](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17163954/) >[Lowers estrogen (Aromatase inhibiting)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5983576/) >[Increases metabolism by 7-15% (Peaty)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3195407/) >[neuroprotective (60% reduced risk of Parkinson)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1125458/) >[aids with digestion](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2201475/Doctors-dont-know-best-Student-claims-cured-debilitating-bowel-disease-taking-smoking.html) >[good against “covid”](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7192087/) >[1-2 cigars daily basically 0 risk of cancer](https://crmarketing.biz/blog/fda-study-cancer-risks-nearly-nil-for-1-2-cigars-per-day/) >With cigars, you do not inhale through the lungs, so you get the benefits of tobacco and nicotine trans-salivary >Despite the demonization of tobacco one thing is for sure - smokers have higher androgen and lower estrogen levels than non-smokers. >Pure organic tobacco, smoked through an activated charcoal filter is probably not nearly as bad and may even be.. healthy? >Besides keeping stress hormones and estrogen low, raising T and being neuro-protective, tobacco also has anti parasitic effects. >So I ordered some organic cigars and smoked these during my 5 day parasite cleanse, in which I drank only juices (I expelled some weird things). >Coming from a bioenergetic perspective I think such cleanses can be stressful on the body. >On the 2nd day of juicing I felt stressed so I lit my first cigar. My temperature and heart-rate went up and within minutes a calm came over me. >I believe the boost in Testosterone is not just from the Nicotine. There are 100’s of chemicals in cigars that likely have many different beneficial effects. >Just as the Sun is not just red light. Coffee is not just caffeine. Tobacco is not just nicotine. >There are small attributes to each ingredient that play a symbiotic role. >It is said that by the turn of the last century 1 in 4 men smoked cigars.

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Hey, it's possible, but this advice gives most people a nicotine addiction. That addiction will very quickly move from cigars to cigarettes/vaping etc out of convenience when they have a nicotine fit and no cigars handy.

Nicotine addictions are fucking horrible to kick and the cravings remain for years even after quitting. They are also expensive as fuck. Not a great way to be healthy.

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vaping is such a bad idea. I know you're not endorsing it but let me just say: Vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol, the two main ingredients of vape juice, are in the MSDS as harmful chemicals that needs attention when it gets on your skin. That is certainly not something you want in your lungs and is a pale comparison to naturally grown tobacco

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Imagine that, looks like I got lucky there. Quitting for me was just throwing the pack in the trash and chewing on toothpicks for a week. I've even had days before when I wouldn't feel like smoking so I wouldn't for a few days.

The benefit I would get from smoking is that it would completely free me from accumulated stress and give me focus and wakefulness to keep going, if I had easy relaxing weekends I wouldn't even remember to smoke during that time. Every time even years after quitting when I'm working through a burnout (as I am now) my mind tells me "would be good to light one right now".

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True, it would require self control, but it can be a useful substance if you can source all natural stuff.

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I think it's genetic. That shit rewires my brain into addiction after just a few uses. Yes, I can force myself to quit, but it takes all my focus and mental energy to do it for two weeks while going through physical withdrawal roller coaster of shaking, nausea, chills, headaches, and inability to concentrate. Then there's a year relapse period where you are not really out of the woods. Other people barely even notice and can just quit. Lucky bastards.

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That other comment was supposed to be a reply to this one.

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You had me at "In my quest to do the opposite of official government health advice"

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Seriously. I wondered how many people were doing the exact same thing as me.

I'm not interested in anything now if it's a government or government-sponsored "expert" recommendation.

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It is my first consideration upon taking something seriously. Where does government and industry stand? I'll start at the opposite end.

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Drugs like nicotine from tobacco isnt that bad for alot of men, but almost all drugs and stuff are harmful to women. Tobacco seems to have a natural manly buff for men which is pretty cool (I have heard of the testosterone thing before somewhere), but a pretty strong debuff for women. Avoid women who smoke and do drugs at all costs. Women who use drugs, drink or smoke alot will have increased chances of a complicated child birth even if they are clean just before and during the pregnancy

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This is 100%. This benefits listed are good for men since it helps the to balance out hormones in a way to promote testosterone dominance. Doing this to women would throw their hormones off balance and cause problem like complicated childbirth.

Also men should take care not to smoke indoors and around women and children.

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Few things as unattractive as a woman with a cigarette in her mouth.

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Not if they have the classy extension

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Also I've heard it's good to avoid faggots who use video game terminology outside of videogames if you can

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faggots

IT'S A MA'AM!

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Never smoked 'fresh' tobacco but I'll bet it would be sublime. Was never a cigar smoker, but I did like to smoke my pipe with a fresh cup of coffee after supper. Smoked for 20-some years but rolled my own for most of it - always felt weird after smoking a cigarette with a filter on it. Finally couldn't breathe anymore so I quit almost 10 years ago.. besides all the chems and additives they add to treat tobacco, I'd also wager that the frequency of smoking plays into the negative effects.

I do miss my hit after supper though - the euphoric rush was so satisfying.

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I used to smoke cigarettes about 10 years ago. My friend once brought me some home grown tobacco filled cigarettes and the differences was insane. You would be satisfied by 1-2 per day when I used to smoke half a pack and the cigarette would burn twice as long.

I still get an urge to smoke a cigarette during stressful times. I might give it a second try with cigars or pipe if I can source organic tobacco in my area.

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Cigars are great, there was actually a study by standford that showed men that smoked less than 3 cigars daily and did not inhale has lower cancer risk than non-smokers. I havent had one in months though since our new baby arrived. Drew estate are at the top of my list.

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any cigars you could advise?

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Don't really know any. I'm not smoking yet, but plant to start in the future.

I would go with any organic cigars or organic pipe tobacco that you can source.

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An old guy let me try more green tobacco i think from serbia or slovakia and the difference was like having a mint pastill compared to a normal cigarette it felt so clean.