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Having kids with a fat person is dysgenic. Not only does that put the baby's life in danger from the health risks, their average IQ is lower. Inflammation from obesity does a lot of damage to a developing baby. Not to mention fat people are more likely to have issues conceiving a child in the first place. Men don't get a pass either, it affects their fertility too. If someone can't eat less to lessen risks of their future children dying, born early or deformed, having lower IQ ect I would say they're too selfish to be considered a potential partner. Give them the chance to lose weight but if they won't they're too selfish to be a parent. Check out these links if you don't believe me. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3521747/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4989730/ https://www.medpagetoday.com/obgyn/pregnancy/90300#:~:text=Risk%20of%20ectopic%20pregnancy%2C%20miscarriage,University%20in%20California%2C%20and%20colleagues. http://gizmodo.com/5909157/obese-mothers-give-birth-to-less-intelligent-children
Having kids with a fat person is dysgenic
No it isnt. Women have a stronger propensity to put on weight. They have more adipose tissue. That is because it is useful to have extra fat stores when you are pregnant and nursing. Im not talking about 400 lb women. But there is nothing dysgenic about having a baby if you are 50 lbs over weight.
Look at this chart, there is barely any difference at all between normal weight and overweight category for infant mortality for a white woman at up to 30 BMI. Thats around 174 lbs for a 5’4” woman. Fat. Infant mortality is actually worse for an underweight woman which is 105 lbs for a 5’4” woman. Nobody’s on here talking about the dysgenics of 105 lb women though, funny.
There is no evidence that overweight causes low IQ. That is a correlation. You didnt give me a link to that study and the article doesnt list one. Did it adjust for race? IQ of the mom correlates to weight of mom and IQ of baby. But if you know a fat chick and shes got a 120 IQ it is a non-issue.
Im not talking about 400 lb whales here. But I think I have a sense of what passes for dysgenic around here and guess what, you’re wrong. Moms need extra body fat to nourish the brain of the baby which needs FAT.
You're delusional if you think being 50 lbs overweight is healthy for a developing baby. That's absolutely disgusting. That's like saying it's fine to have a few alcoholic drinks during pregnancy, it's not as risky as being a full blown alcoholic so who cares right? Maybe smoke a few cigarettes too, just don't smoke a pack a day. Gluttony is as big of a problem as any other vice. You'd have to be selfish to take even a slight risk when all you have to do is eat less.
I'm pregnant with my 3rd child and always make sure I'm in the middle of the healthy BMI range before getting pregnant. Then I keep my weight gain in the middle of the healthy range during pregnancy. I couldn't live with myself knowing I put my children at risk of harm, even a slight risk, because I wanted to selfishly stuff my face instead of eating properly. Being close to underweight and not gaining enough is bad too, you're right. I actually gained weight for this last one because as you said, being underweight isn't healthy either and if I'd gotten bad morning sickness I would've ended up underweight. My highest BMI was actually 29.9 and I remember feeling like crap at that weight, even at 27-28 BMI. That's certainly not ideal for pregnancy. I lifted weights back then too, probably had a lower body fat percentage than the average lady at those BMIs but it still didn't matter. Being overweight is unhealthy, period.
The extra body fat you're thinking of means the ideal body fat percentage is higher for women than it is for men. Healthy range for women is 21-31%, not including athlete and essential fat categories of body fat percentage which aren't ideal for pregnancy. For men that range is 14-24%. Look at this chart, 30% body fat isn't going to mean 50 lbs overweight for anyone. And that's the upper limit. https://files.catbox.moe/ussj53.jpg Compare to these examples of women at a 30 BMI https://height-weight-chart.com/504-170.html And 33 BMI https://height-weight-chart.com/510-230.html They aren't anywhere close to a healthy body fat percentage. Sure they aren't morbidly obese but again, would you want to have children with a woman who will smoke and drink occasionally during pregnancy just because their habits aren't as bad as chain smokers/binge drinkers? Why take the risk when they can easily choose to be healthy? If they can't lose a few lbs before conceiving a child to minimize risks then they care more about enjoying food than the life of their future children.
And here is a better link about obesity during pregnancy and IQ: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5455002/
"More than a dozen observational studies have been conducted looking at the association between maternal BMI and cognitive function of the offspring during infancy and adolescence. These studies largely support a negative correlation between pre-pregnancy maternal obesity and child IQ, including poorer motor, spatial, and verbal skills]. In some cases, lower cognitive performance is also observed in children as a function of maternal weight gain during pregnancy, although the opposite has also been reported. Indeed, lower IQ and higher risk of intellectual disability are also related to low maternal BMI, suggesting that there is a U-shaped association between maternal weight and offspring cognitive performance."
You're delusional if you think being 50 lbs overweight is healthy for a developing baby. That's absolutely disgusting. That's like saying it's fine to have a few alcoholic drinks during pregnancy,
As my chart states, an extra 50 lbs increases infant mortality by 0.04%. Its more dangerous to be thin (under 18.5 BMI) than overweight (25 - 30)
Your study states that high fat diets fed to obese pregnant rats, mice, pigs improved memory of the offspring. The whole study just cites a lot of conflicting evidence
That's like saying it's fine to have a few alcoholic drinks during pregnancy,
How many are we talking here?
Listen you are determine to draw absurd comparisons like being 50 lbs overweight is the same as hooking on a street corner in Las Vegas while smoking crack. Guess what, it aint. You make yourself look silly. 50 lbs overweight is not a significant risk to your baby’s IQ or anything else, and none of those studies establish that.
A baby will have a low IQ if its mom is dumb. If you marry a fat chick with a 120 IQ, you will have a smart kid. That is proven.
That's absolutely disgusting.
You’re an hysteric.
Underweight is a much bigger health risk. But I wont catch you have a fit of the vapors over a woman with a 105 lb body wt having a baby.
Body weight is a good predictor of longevity. Not infant mortality or child IQ. White people need to get married and have babies. Men cant let opportunities slip buy because some woman ticked all the boxes but was 50 lbs overweight. I guarantee the mexicans dont give a fuck and they are outproducing us by alot.
>There is no evidence that overweight causes low IQ. That is a correlation.
Lower IQ people tend to have higher time preference and less ability to delay gratification. They will go for the extra slice of cake because it feels good now, and not think about or not care about the long term consequences. This is why obesity rates are stratified by race, with blacks having the highest rates, hispanics next, whites and then east asians least. The exact same tendency is seen with sexual promiscuity and violent crime.
Correlation is not causation.
I think there are several different reasons why someone can be obese or overweight. Only one of those is IQ. I think there are other reasons in blacks that cause them to gain weight. The melanocortin system for one. Also this phenomenon called steatopygia with is very pronounced in some tribes https://files.catbox.moe/tyszn1.jpg
A lot of people with mental illness are overweight too. I imagine a lot of people with mood disorders use it to regulate their emotions.
I know a lot of people on here are going to say will power or IQ. Alot of obesity is going to be down to genes, and not necessarily the IQ ones. I have met a lot of very smart fat people.
The exact same tendency is seen with sexual promiscuity and violent crime.
I think IQ has something to do with this. But whites with low IQ are less violet than blacks. There is still a massive disparity when you adjust for IQ. Some of this may yet again be a function of the melanocortin system, which controls skin color, libido, violence, and eating behaviors. Basically darker pigmented animals of all kinds of species are shown to be more aggressive.
Some other studies have shown that polygamous societies are far more violent than monogamous ones. Reproductively successful polygamous males tend to be more violent and more sexually aggresive individuals who can fight off the competion and hoard all the females. Monogamists put more energy into taking care of a single mate and a smaller number of children and less time fighting other males. Monogamists also tend to compete with their brains and their “nice guy” traits. There is more male cooperation and more economic productiveness.
All these are factors for why blacks (and muzzies) are so violent and rapey.
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