It turns out the JQ is only a layer of the red-pilling. I see now it correlates with a sort of mental and social infantalization. Subversion is to affirm victimhood and herd people into addiction. Anyone trying to make money will start to have corrupted morality. I lurk on voat and see people have trouble with this idea. I also find fixating on blame reduces peoples ability to take action on the subversion (scapegoating is in a way a form of infantalization). I didn't realize there was many negative comments for posting wrong there. I think people are sensitive everywhere. I probably should read to the bottom of the threads but sometimes they get long and detailed and I don't have time to look at things so deeply. However, the other day I posted some direct link MP4's here and got downvoted and chewed out when. People don't like to have their flow disrupted I guess, but Voat seems to be a lot more aggressive about it then Poal. I hope the userbase grows a little here and the standards stay high. It should make for some interesting growth and give more intellectual perspectives and truth seeking.