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I'm really starting to wonder if Voat is now an Alphabet company. It seems that the changes being abrupt and major might be because of a powerful hand from a powerful company is pulling the strings. The angel investor might be an Alphabet big wig instead of the main company to keep it off the radar. Putt did say we piss of some powerful people, but he never said they were government people. Maybe it's not Alphabet but it could be some other tech giant. I think they found Putt's price. Does this seem plausible?

I'm really starting to wonder if Voat is now an Alphabet company. It seems that the changes being abrupt and major might be because of a powerful hand from a powerful company is pulling the strings. The angel investor might be an Alphabet big wig instead of the main company to keep it off the radar. Putt did say we piss of some powerful people, but he never said they were government people. Maybe it's not Alphabet but it could be some other tech giant. I think they found Putt's price. Does this seem plausible?

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[–] • 11 pts

As good a theory as any. I really doubt Putt is really still Putt, myself.

[–] • 6 pts

His writing/communicating style changed. I'm no expert but I do pay some attention to how people write to improve my own writing skills. He definitely isn't writing the same way so it's likely not Putt at the keyboard.

[–] • 5 pts

Where do you think the delineation began on his changed diction? I could try and investigate when I get the time, making observations on how Putt's rhetoric transformed based on sentence structure, behavior, and argumentation. It would take awhile to reach anything conclusive, if it all though.

[–] • 5 pts

I first picked up on a change in cadence and rhythm in his "Builders" speech. The writing was not the same with his quirky sentence structure and odd cadence. It had too much flow and some words seemed un-Putt-like. I can't give examples at the moment, but if you can compare it to an earlier post you may find the differences stand out.

[–] • 4 pts

Same here, I just made the comment. My background is in writing, translation, linguistics. The personality feels different.

[–] • 3 pts

Again, I have no inside knowledge, just a feeling from the tenor of what's transpired. I think he was either bought out or ousted by angels.

[–] • 4 pts

Angel investors can certainly do that. Maybe Putt didn't have a lawyer read the fine print. I worked for a company that ousted the entire executive team because the angel investor they brought in to help them with financial troubles pulled a fast one on them. They didn't quite get the gist of the performance clause and after 6 months they were all evaluated, found lacking and kicked out. This could have happened to Putt too but he might actually be going insane too.

[–] • 4 pts

I've had the same thought. After a couple years of direct interactions with the guy including several the past few days, something feels "off".

[–] • 7 pts

I left goatland after the big outage when Putt disappeared and didn't even know the site was down for a couple of days. Atko had to swoop in and save it. Even before that Putt had given up caring and that was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Pmby2 created Poal - and many of us went in the new direction to build anew. So yes, I really do believe he who had been Putt is no longer posting as such. IMHO he was either bought out or ousted by angels.

[–] • 4 pts

Tone is very different, personality feels different

[–] • 1 pt

I 100% believe it's him and that what we are witnessing is the unadulterated 'fuck it, I'm not going to sweeten what I say anymore' him.

If you read his earlier announcement posts you see the similarities in manner of tech speak and format.

The only difference now is that he's speaking more emotionally. And I think it's because he's set financially now thanks to the angel, is free of some of the burden to carry the site by himself, and he's allowing his resentment of his critics to show through.

I observed how he acted during spats with users over the last couple of years. It struck me how petty he was during those interactions and I turned sour on him. He's not acting any differently now. Others are finally seeing what I observed a while ago.

[–] • 1 pt

I have a hard time claiming 100% certainty of anything; but yeah, I'd say it's a lot more likely that we're seeing another side of Putt than that the CIA big wigs went "mua ha ha! It's now time to execute our fiendish plan to replace Putt with our imposture!".

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[–] • 1 pt

Shouldn't be that hard to prove.

[–] • 8 pts

My impression is that he takes vote manipulation seriously and really fucked up the roll out with these bans. It is also clear that for whatever reason he doesn't want the investor known. I also get the impression he is overworked and it is having a detrimental impact on his mental state.

I guess there could be some big plot involved. But what I've outlined seems more straightforward. Even that is bad enough. There are still a lot of old users banned - and him being as busy as he is means he could overlook unbanning them - even assuming he is inclined to.

It's a mess. Including for him. And he created it. No two ways about it.

[–] • 4 pts

He's refused to unban Obrez for what SGuevar and Madworld saw as legitimate voting usage. So I have no idea what his decision making process is for lifting the bans.

[–] • 2 pts

No one does, that's part of the problem. His lack of transparency is against everything voat was supposed to be.

On top of that, he's been using his personal, mysterious definition of what a "Builder" or "Destroyer" is and CREATING A CIVIL WAR because of it.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

That is some stupid shit that no ADMIN should participate in. He was showing publicly that he aligns with the srayzie and company and is willing to go to war with shit posters or anyone else who does not support zionism. Crensch & kevdude are his little right hand jews

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Its because he doesn't want anyone fucking with his traffic Q subs and will destroy anyone who calls them out. Just my 2

[–] [deleted] • 8 pts

Plausible, but he specifically said when the canary was last updated that it was a US Gov agency that was giving him trouble.

[–] • 6 pts (edited )

He first mentioned that contact around the same time 8ch people were posting "friendly" visits from the FBI.

Literally within 1-2 days of each other. It seems obvious to me that he's under some pressure to either reign in some activities or snitch on people in some capacity.

Edit:

https://voat .co/v/Voat/3178819 04/24 7:15 PM

https://voat .co/v/videos/3180129 04/25 11:18 AM

https://voat .co/v/whatever/3181862 04/25 (according to youtube, posted to voat later)

[–] • 0 pt

I wish there was a way to watch that video without visiting youtube

[–] • 0 pt

Hooktube

[–] • 0 pt

Tube.poal.co is A fork of invidio.us

[–] • 4 pts

Didn't know that. Still it could be a government agency asking the questions and forcing the takeover/buyout from another larger tech company. How better to gain control of a site than to push it into an already controlled new owner?

[–] • 4 pts

What agency do you think would've taken over? There have been a lot of new accounts making very specific violent threats since the last canary update, and it could be related.

[–] • 4 pts

I was beginning to think I was the only person who noticed this. At first I assumed it was backlash against the "cool it" post but as it continued and continued.. very suspicious

[–] • 1 pt

Not just continued, it sharply increased. Absolutely not organic.

[–] • 2 pts

Not sure, but it could be foreign linked.

[–] • 0 pt

Nah, it's definitely a domestic entity of some sort.

If it was foreign it'd have to be a very close ally of the US.

[–] • 0 pt

If it was foreign it'd have to be a very close ally of the US.

One could even say, its "greatest ally". :p

[–] • 0 pt

NZ, UK, Australia and Canada have all declared outright war on free speech platforms in the name of "hate speech". These are 4 of the 5 eyes that the US intelligence services work with. Not hard to imagine the foreign influence at all.