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I started watching episode one of the new Wheel of Time series. Near the start there is this "Planet of the Apes" sequence where a bunch of Amazon women on horses ride down and kill two men who beg for their lives before being executed. The woman who kills them with some mysterious magic power tells them they don't deserve to have power, that power belongs only to women.

Then we see a dozen or more women together, moving around and talking, and I notice, there are no men and no children. Not one kid.

It was then that I stopped watching.

What are the messages this series is sending children who may view it?

  • Men are evil.
  • Men are weak.
  • Men don't deserve mercy or compassion.
  • Women don't need men.
  • Women don't need children
  • Women don't need marriage.
  • Woman don't need families.
  • Women are the natural leaders of humanity.
  • Women should be running everything.
  • Woman are superior to men.
  • Men can't be trusted because when they had power, they fucked up the world.

And that was only in the first ten minutes or so of the first episode of this series. I mean, holy shit, how does anyone expect a child growing up with this, alongside XXX pornography and Ritalin, to have a healthy attitude toward getting married or raising a family? And people wonder why the numbers of whites are dropping. It isn't entirely low sperm counts, although that undoubtedly plays a part (and may have been engineered). This series is social poison, social cyanide.

And this is all we see coming out of Hollywood these days. It's all absolutely destructive social and cultural poison.

I started watching episode one of the new *Wheel of Time* series. Near the start there is this "Planet of the Apes" sequence where a bunch of Amazon women on horses ride down and kill two men who beg for their lives before being executed. The woman who kills them with some mysterious magic power tells them they don't deserve to have power, that power belongs only to women. Then we see a dozen or more women together, moving around and talking, and I notice, there are no men and no children. Not one kid. It was then that I stopped watching. What are the messages this series is sending children who may view it? * Men are evil. * Men are weak. * Men don't deserve mercy or compassion. * Women don't need men. * Women don't need children * Women don't need marriage. * Woman don't need families. * Women are the natural leaders of humanity. * Women should be running everything. * Woman are superior to men. * Men can't be trusted because when they had power, they fucked up the world. And that was only in the first ten minutes or so of the first episode of this series. I mean, holy shit, how does anyone expect a child growing up with this, alongside XXX pornography and Ritalin, to have a healthy attitude toward getting married or raising a family? And people wonder why the numbers of whites are dropping. It isn't entirely low sperm counts, although that undoubtedly plays a part (and may have been engineered). This series is social poison, social cyanide. *And this is all we see coming out of Hollywood these days.* It's all absolutely destructive social and cultural poison.

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[–] [deleted] • 3 pts (edited )

I've read the whole set of books. It used to be one of my favorite fantasy series. However, recently I began rereading them. Upon rereading I can see all the satanic like references so I'm kind of puzzling out feelings for the source material.

That being said, the show was more SJW shit. The only show character who resembles the book character would be Rand. Emmonds Field is supposed to be a village cut off from the rest of the world. So the genetic lines should be pure white. Every main character is supposed to be white. There are only supposed to be 3 ta'veren...the 3 best male friends. Mats parents are not white trash but good people. Perrin is not married, and is a blacksmiths apprentice. I could keep listing huge discrepancies from the book but this post would be far longer than I want to make.

The main arc of the story is that the Dragon(a powerful magic welding warrior) is constantly reborn as the pattern needs him. This is his story of how he defeats the dark one and reseals him in his prison made by the creator. There are male magic users, but 3000 years in the past, during the last battle with the dark one, the male half of the power was tainted by the Dark One. The taint causes men who channel the power to inevitably go insane. The women in red are group of the female magic casters who hunt down men who can channel before they can go fully mad and destroy the world again. One of those men aren't real in the beginning.

All in all, the show was a HUGE disappointment and very little like the books. I will not waste my time watching them ruin one of my favorite stories from yesteryear.

[–] • 3 pts

I have the same thoughts as others. The books are great, the new series is trash and none of the important elements are there.

Part of what made the books stand out was how much work went into making the different cultures so distinct. Racially, there would have been plenty of opportunity for good roles for niggers and every other race, but even without watching it I can tell that has been forcefully screwed up. Same thing with relations between the sexes - there's very clear distinction that the sexes have different rules and roles, with plenty of opportunity to portray both men and women in a good light and as heroes and heroines. They fuck this up on purpose.

There are also a ton of references in the books to Pagan European religion and cultures. The idea is that all time works in really long cycles (the turning of the wheel of time) and that true events eventually fade to memory, then myth, then are barely remembered before they happen again. The Aiel are inspired by the ancient Celts according to the author. The three main characters are all Germanic/Norse Gods (Rand Al'Thor is actually Tyr, Mat is very clearly Odin, and Perrin is Thor. Google this or DM me if you're curious why, too many spoilers) It's implied that the events in the book faded to myth and then were mostly lost to become what we know today. Since things are cyclical there are also references to things in our era that similarly faded and barely known about in the book.

My point is the books, while having some elements that would be debatably questionable here also have a ton of White culture positivity, healthy racial and sexual clarity, and over all is not what I'd consider subverted. The show is clearly and severely kiked and I won't watch even a minute of it.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Jordan is on record stating that he used world's religions and cultures to create the various cultures in the book. I agree, there is plenty of opportunities in the source material to give every group their own part, instead of this "white man bad" garbage.

[–] • 1 pt

.... The books state that Perrin has darker skin than most everyone else and curly black hair.

The Aes Sedai start strong but eventually bow to Rand's power.

Jordan is on record talking about the Aes Sedai being very "dominatrix" like.

The books are like 30 years old; Jordan wasn't playing politics with his books. He only intended to write 3-4 books, but the success and pressure from his gal prompted him to do more. Remember that Robert Jordan was one of the early writers for the Conan the Barbarian books and comics. He certainly wasn't "woke."

Of course Amazon tries to make it SJW related, but that isn't the source materials fault.

Anyone that has read the WoT series, i HIGHLY suggest that you check out the Malazan Book of the Fallen series. The best series I have ever read, although Erickson is a bit of a SJW douche, it mostly stays out of thw writing. Glen Cook's The Blqck Company series is also worthwhile.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Perrin would be darker because his skin is tanned from working long hours in front of a forge. Not because he's a nigger. Any society that is cut off from the world would be of a homogenous genetics. Thus Perrin was white.

[–] • 1 pt

Have you read the books?

Had you. a bunch of it would make far more sense.

I watched about 15 minutes of it myself, and being a fan if the series. I have issues with it.

I have issues with the race washing and shit in it. But there are messages that are in the books that seem one way, for a long time. like men suck, and then shift drastically the other way for a while. over a series of 14 books.

Its not quite cannon to be at the start of the series, but series believable for a set of red sisters to be chasing down a man who can channel.

Later in the books, when the man, shoes that he can handle and handful of these women, only a couple if very powerful, with ease. does the message stay the same?

When he is making them swear oaths of fealty, when a man is gaining an entire population and taking over the world. does that scream men suck?

Read it, before you try to judge the ideas presented. But do judge after you have read it, for then your opinion is valuable when discussing fantasy setting with so much written cannon. Until then, you lack the understanding to bitch.

[–] • 3 pts

He's talking about the SJW series which just came out. It drips SJW subversion and diversity, simply from the previews.

Understand books and movies are very different things. This version was made with subversive, destructive societal goals in mind. It really doesn't reflect upon the source material.

[–] • 3 pts

Correct. After 10 minutes, you can tell why Amazon chose the source material. They can use it to denigrate white men.

Then they can toss niggers everywhere else and pretend it's high fantasy.

Thank God LOTR was made an epic movie before today's age. I'd hate to see the monstrosity if they'd have created it today.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

It's sad because the wheel of time has the potential to make GoT and LOTR look like child's play if done properly.

[–] • 1 pt

Understood. But many of the direct issues he pointed out. Are things that are very present in the books.

They all already start out too old. Egwaine does get her hair into a braid on bel tine day... the day the first episode is set.

Aes Sedai - dont go to pl;aces and say who they are... they are largely untrusted and misunderstood by the general population. She arrives in the village with Lan, under the names of Alice and Andra. Just travellers looking for old stories. She discovers Teveran after arrival, not before... soe of that is pretty minor, and can be glossed over for the need to condense a 30 hour read of book one, into a few hours of TV. A bunch of the stuff in those 9 chapters that are before the start, are needed for the story. I dont know how or if they intend to work them in.

I am not saying, they arent laying a bunch of bullshit into it also. Hell Egwaine is a fuckin abo... When the dark people are the seafolk and the tairens. The Aiel are listed as deeply tanned, but from sun. So Rand could be done well as a tall white guy.

Perrin is fucked from the start. He wasnt married at that point. And not to some fuckin abo. He marries something closer to a chink (well as closely as decribed - high slanted almond eyes with high cheek bones) I want to say in book 4 but it could be 3. They introduce to her father / mother for the first time in book 6. His family needs to die... mother father brother and sisters... he needs to rail about his 9 year old brother not a dead wife... I dont know how they would reconcile that... its way outside of the books.

So far. with only a few minutes watched. I was pretty disappointed.

Now i have to go see the rest of the episode to see how much worse it gets.

Considering how many times I have read this series. I should have been so eager for the release of this that i watched it 3 or 4 times already. I watched 15 mins and walked away.

[–] • 0 pt

I watched about 20 minutes of it, basically it was what you described. A bunch of woman wizards going around killing men, and a medieval village filled with Indians, spics, niggers, and strong independent whammen.

Not to mention the show pilot (which is supposed to be excellent to reel you into watching) was extremely boring, gave it a one star review.