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Edit, the Hammonds were pardoned by Trump.

"in the very early stages of litigation of these criminal charges, the Hammonds were offered to have all charges dropped in exchange for paying a fine... equivalent to 75 percent of the ranch’s value...]

"the handbook of both the Bureau of Land Management and United States Forest Service grazing codes clearly state that federal land permit holders are exempt from liability for fires that occur on their allotment (18 U.S. Code 1855 Timber)?"

"... why would the government be willing to drop the charges if the Hammonds agreed to turn the ranch over to them?"

Edit, the Hammonds were pardoned by Trump. [The Hammond properties are rich in uranium. These guys were sent up the river on bogus terrorism charges.](https://archive.is/JzjmP) >"in the very early stages of litigation of these criminal charges, the Hammonds were offered to have all charges dropped in exchange for paying a fine... equivalent to 75 percent of the ranch’s value...] >"the handbook of both the Bureau of Land Management and United States Forest Service grazing codes clearly state that federal land permit holders are exempt from liability for fires that occur on their allotment (18 U.S. Code 1855 Timber)?" >"... why would the government be willing to drop the charges if the Hammonds agreed to turn the ranch over to them?" [U.S. Senator Reid, son combine for China firm's desert plant](https://archive.is/U98P2) [Is the U.S. Being Colonized By Communist China?](https://thenewamerican.com/is-the-us-being-colonized-by-communist-china/)

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I don't agree with everything he did. He was a liberal in the true sense of the word, but a 1980's liberal. I don't think he would have been for the current regime. The Monkey Wrench Gang is interesting reading if you like books.

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I'll add that one to my list. I read books from anyone regardless of their political leanings... idealogical terms almost don't mean anything anymore since the definitions have changed so much over time. I read in David McCollough's John Adams biography that he considered himself a liberal, and that really confused me until I learned about how these sorts of things evolve over time but maintain their original names. Funny to think of Adams as a liberal when compared to Biden, especially considering that the word Democrat was used as an insult in those days.

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I consider myself a liberal to an extent. I support art, music, education, STEM, sports, freedom to do what you want, The mountains, America. Yeah. Thats actually a liberal belief. Its what these communists have done with the word.

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I don't really know what camp I fall into, because I have fundamental disagreements on core tenants with with liberalism and conservatism at the same time, insofar as I understand what those words actually mean. Do you know where I could find meaningful explorations into these concepts as such? I only pick up things here and there, but I don't really have a good foundation of literature to draw from.