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Exactly as I said it would be.

And to all the numerous idiots that didn't have any fucking first hand knowledge of these fuckers, that kept insisting that "The taliban will outlaw opium production!" and "Opium production will go down under the taliban after the US leaves!"?

I know those fuckers and I fucking told you so. Suck it.

For the idiots that see everything as a jewish plot, opium was being grown in those same fields 2,200 years ago when Cyrus blew through there from Persia, and were still in operation when Alexander came through on his way to India 200 years later.

I spent 17 years in Afghanistan. I know those people. The taliban are not some monolithic block. They are a loose confederation of competing tribal interests. Think "The Sopranos" but in pakols. They are like any other human being. They want things. Things that can be only be bought for money. Opium is the only product they have that is highly marketable. I have seen them kill each other over market share just like any other tribal gangs over who gets what cut of the drug profits. I've seen taliban commanders begging their men not to walk away during the opium harvest season, because they could make 2-3 times per day harvesting opium as they can toting an AK as a taliban foot soldier (Yes. They get paid to fight. What? You thought they were doing it for free? Because "Muh Izlam!"? snerk).

An Afghan border guard captain, working on the Iranian border, makes about $4,000 USD per day just on the "excise taxes" he makes per kilo going out. That's more than the POTUS. Nobody just walks away from that kind of money.

Now consider their costs. They are landlocked. No ports. Everything comes in from surrounding countries who are all in competition with each other to see how much they milk they can get out of the cow. Every consumer good gets "taxed" multiple times on it's way to Kabul. So they are being constantly fucked by everybody. So that, to give an example, by the time a diesel Toyota Hilux truck gets to Kabul, it will cost about $80,000 USD.

Anyone who thought that the taliban were going to just stop producing the one thing that they can trade for cash because "Muh, izlam." is guilty of wishful thinking of the worst sort. And anyone who thought that the opium trade in Afghanistan was a jewish/Mossad/CIA/us.gov plot that suddenly sprang into existence in 1980 is a baby duck who thinks history just started today.

And guess what? 2,000 years from now the descendants of those same people will still be growing opium in the same fields. Who are you going to blame it on then? And if your opinion on the matter has been formed by what you read on the internet, not from first-hand experience, do yourself a favor and keep it to yourself. "It is far better to remain silent and be suspected of being a fool..."

*Exactly* as I said it would be. And to all the numerous idiots that didn't have any fucking first hand knowledge of these fuckers, that kept insisting that "The taliban will outlaw opium production!" and "Opium production will go down under the taliban after the US leaves!"? I know those fuckers and I fucking told you so. Suck it. For the idiots that see everything as a jewish plot, opium was being grown in those same fields 2,200 years ago when Cyrus blew through there from Persia, and were still in operation when Alexander came through on his way to India 200 years later. I spent 17 years in Afghanistan. I know those people. The taliban are not some monolithic block. They are a loose confederation of competing tribal interests. Think "The Sopranos" but in pakols. They are like any other human being. They want things. Things that can be only be bought for money. Opium is the only product they have that is highly marketable. I have seen them kill each other over market share just like any other tribal gangs over who gets what cut of the drug profits. I've seen taliban commanders begging their men not to walk away during the opium harvest season, because they could make 2-3 times per day harvesting opium as they can toting an AK as a taliban foot soldier (Yes. They get paid to fight. What? You thought they were doing it for free? Because "Muh Izlam!"? snerk). An Afghan border guard captain, working on the Iranian border, makes about $4,000 USD *per day* just on the "excise taxes" he makes per kilo going out. That's more than the POTUS. Nobody just walks away from that kind of money. Now consider their costs. They are landlocked. No ports. Everything comes in from surrounding countries who are all in competition with each other to see how much they milk they can get out of the cow. Every consumer good gets "taxed" multiple times on it's way to Kabul. So they are being constantly fucked by everybody. So that, to give an example, by the time a diesel Toyota Hilux truck gets to Kabul, it will cost about $80,000 USD. Anyone who thought that the taliban were going to just stop producing the one thing that they can trade for cash because "Muh, izlam." is guilty of wishful thinking of the worst sort. And anyone who thought that the opium trade in Afghanistan was a jewish/Mossad/CIA/us.gov plot that suddenly sprang into existence in 1980 is a baby duck who thinks history just started today. And guess what? 2,000 years from now the descendants of those same people will *still* be growing opium in the same fields. Who are you going to blame it on then? And if your opinion on the matter has been formed by what you read on the internet, not from first-hand experience, do yourself a favor and keep it to yourself. "It is far better to remain silent and be suspected of being a fool..."

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The Hindu Kush is where opium poppies were first cultivated. The shit grows wild in the mountains.

It's not a matter of whether it can grow there or not, sunshine.

You ever try to harvest a cash crop in mountainous terrain? Only in small amounts. Not in large easily cultivatable fields. Only in areas with reliable water sources. That are contended by multiple competing tribal interests. With extremely limited routes in and out?

If you did manage to harvest a useful, marketable amount of opium, you would have been "taxed" out of it by guys with AK's long before you ever got any of it to market.

You left that part out. Because you just don't know anything that isn't on the internet. What you don't know about the ground truth in those areas will still fill volumes. And every time you run your suck-hole on the subject you only prove that further. Go pick another thread to be an internet-expert on. There are people with real-world experience in this one.

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It is a matter of if it does grow there and in sufficient quantity for the CIA to be interested and it does. I stick to my original statement that the Northern Alliance were drug lords and still are drug lords. The US went after the Taliban for their opposition to drugs. We went there to make Afghanistan safe for Opium production. Too many of us saw with our own eyes for you to tell us any different. Stop with the Ad Hominem it doesn't bother me. Why is it so important for you to try and cover up for the CIA?

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I'll try one last time to make it as simple as possible for you. I'll type slowly so you can keep up.

It would be like having a very low producing gold mine right in in the middle of bandit country. 1) Because of it's location, it doesn't produce enough to make it worth the effort. 2) Everything you produced would be taken away from you anyway.

The US went after the Taliban for their opposition to drugs.

What opposition to drugs? Most of the infighting and inter-tribal taliban killings I saw were over drug profits. Because that is about power The "Sopranos" in pakols, remember? Just like their "opposition" to homosexuality. It doesn't exist. Never has. You fantasy about the taliban having some sort of nobility and insistence on seeing those people as something they are not has blinded you to reality.

Too many of us saw with our own eyes for you to tell us any different.

Oh, really? Where and when? Because I spent 17 years there, living and working out among the people. Everywhere from Mazar-i-Sharif in the north to Marjah in the south, and from Herat to Shkin. Not from inside a FOB, or safely tucked in the back of an MRAP, so spare me.

You are clearly ineducable, so I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying. You have a fine fantasy world created around you that nothing can penetrate, so I will leave you as you are.