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[–] 11 pts

I know a way they can keep their employees -- pay them more money. What? They never thought of that? And it was so simple.

[–] 3 pts

They had the cash to lawyer up, just not to pay their people. It’s not a crime to make a job offer to someone. At every software developer I worked for over the last 20 years, the employment contract stated that if you leave, you can’t work in the industry for a year. Everyone ignores it and no one tries to enforce it. If they had an agreement like that with their employer then it would be the employees that would get sued, not their new employer.

[–] 6 pts

Isn't there something where you can get in trouble for interfering in a contract between two other parties? I'm thinking of tortious interference.

[–] 0 pt

I wouldn’t put it past a lawyer to try and widen the circle of people he can sue. The two parties that made the agreement are the only ones that are limited. The guy that makes a better offer never agreed to anything.

[–] 0 pt

Employment is part contract law - an employment contract - but also part master servant law - passed down from the old times, pre democracy.

13th Amendment outlawed indentured servitude after the civil war. Employees are not slaves. They can quit at any time.

So you can't sue the employees - so sue the other hospital?

It's creative, if nothing else. It may also buy some time by gumming up the process.

Is there merit to tortiuos interference? Interference in a contractual relationship by a third party. Employment is only partly a contractual relationship. Yeah, perhaps there is a case here. Enough to force a hearing.

Technically, is it tortious interference if there is no breach of contract? The contract ends "unexpectedly," but not illegally, when the employees quit. Is why they quit even relevant if there is no breach of contract?

Quitting at any time, for any reason, is an implied, by law, part of the contract. Technically, the contract is fulfilled, or completed, at the time of quitting. So how has it been interfered with?

A trigger of an unexpected completion of a contract... via a third party job offer.

It's a hell of a stretch for interference.

Anything can happen in a court room.

[–] 1 pt

if they have this mention they have to pay for the right to keep it going after contract ends. if they dont want to compensate you, they cant keep you from working in same field

[–] 0 pt

Yeah, but when the whole development team quits at once no one dies. This is basically a whole cardiology and a whole interventional radiology team that are leaving at the same time. People will die over this. But overall it is the hospital's fault for not paying their staff.

[–] [deleted] 1 pt (edited )

The patients can follow the doctors over to Ascension too.

[–] 0 pt

Nope. You get very little loyalty from wages.

Work conditions matter much more

[–] 1 pt

I agree. There was one job offer I received about 10 years ago where the workplace in question was notorious for expecting stupid amounts of overtime and the burnout rate was about 3 months. They offered me more than I was being paid to work there, but I wouldn't have worked there even if they had offered me a million dollars a year. The mental and physical health cost just simply isn't worth it.

[–] 0 pt

We only get one life and money evaporates and easily forgotten anyway

[–] 0 pt

Fucking genius!! You must be the smartest person on the planet!

(((They))) seriously think we at that goddamn dumb.

[–] 6 pts

At will employment is a bitch, ain't it!

Lololol

[–] 6 pts

It's probably not just about money. They probably have really shitty managers that made working there miserable.

[–] 3 pts

I'm sure that's a big part of it.

[–] 4 pts

Sounds like a Jewish rat faced company

[–] [deleted] 4 pts
[–] 1 pt

What a fantastic movie. Simple scenes like that make it special.

[–] 3 pts

You're not allowed to leave your job? I feel like there's a word for that...

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

If they pulled this shit on me I'd just sit and wait it out, I wouldn't work for some fucks who were trying to interfere with my new job. Maybe they should have paid more or had better working conditions, then their entire staff wouldn't be jumping ship. My God, what assholes Thedacare's management is comprised of.

[–] 1 pt

They can't make you go to work for them just no call no show. The problem is these people probably put in two week notices or bragged to their shitty boss about their new jobs.

[–] 0 pt

You can't no call no show when you're a doctor, it's patient abandonment and you can lose your license.

[–] 0 pt

They're nurses and technicians.

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Since they are asking the court to do something that is not covered by law the judge should order them to pay +25% to the employees and reimburse the other corp for their losses after hiring these people. See how important the "community" is for them after THAT.

[–] 1 pt

That would be a godsend. This company is likely looking at multiple breach of contract scenarios.

[–] 3 pts

The decision by Ascension Wisconsin to hire away such a significant portion of ThedaCare’s interventional radiology specialty support team all at once, and at the height of a pandemic surge, will disrupt access to critical care for the people in our region.

If the court granted their request, wouldn't ThedaCare be "disrupting access to critical care for the people" in Ascension Wisconsin's region by withholding critical staffing hires?

[–] 1 pt

Yes, but the legal system doesn't work that way. The status quo is very heavily favored. Possession really is 9/10ths of the law. This is unfortunate because it gives a big advantage to the aggressor. Keeping momentum on your side is very important to winning cases.

[–] 2 pts

Have you tried not treating your employees like cattle?

[–] 1 pt

They are asking the Court to provide time for ThedaCare to replace most of its 11-member interventional radiology and cardiovascular team of nurses and technicians.

Are they going to offer the same to employees, when they fire them keep paying them until they have time to find a new job of the same pay?

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