> Let's get shit straight here, renewable energies are a lame ass option for the vast majority of countries, it usually turns out to be fucking expensive with a piss poor yield, compared to existing solutions.
As were early planes and automobiles,I think we can afford to be a bit more sanguine about the ability of engineers when market incentives have been corrected away from favouring fossil fuels. Besides your only alternative seems to be to protect the existing economy from a temporary reshuffle until we all end up:
> dying en masse
No no no no.... You aren't going to substitute oil and gas consumption, by solar panels and wind farms output, you don't even want to try, it's madness, plain and simple, it's going to be a disaster at every fucking level. Do you have any idea what the production cost represents, just in terms of ecological impact?
"market incentives" what do you mean? Taxing to death those who don't use solar panels?
Oil and gas are cheap, and there's no credible alternative to oil when it comes to the petrochemical industry. You can't manufacture plastic, and petrochemicals, out of solar panels, it's just impossible.
>Besides your only alternative seems to be to protect the existing economy from a temporary reshuffle
No no no no no.... Let's get shit straight; The first who jumps on the renewable energy bandwaggon like a total socialist, ends up bankrupted by its own energy bill, total loss of competitiveness, and wealth by extension, there's no going back, you turn into an economic dwarf, you become irrelevant and extremely vulnerable, as a country
Either everybody does it, or those who do while everybody else doesn't, can shit gold bars every morning
And why would everybody turn solar panel or wind farm? Is that REALLY a good idea? I don't think so. I think fossil fuels are the lesser evil actually
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Make no mistake, "we" will all die en masse. Look at demography, look at africa, asia... That's a shitton of people to feed and equip... To equip like europeans or americans since everybody wants that.... That's not going to fly, especially in the case of africa, that's going to be a disaster. Not just for africans btw, that's something to ponder.
>"market incentives" what do you mean? Taxing to death those who don't use solar panels?
Let's not jump to that. Surely there is a continuum of available options, taxing anyone to death needn't be one of them.
The targets of government intervention should, in my opinion, be the fossil fuel giants who must be made to invest more into refining the profitability and competitiveness of any alternative energy source that they so choose.
Just as they managed to make drilling for under the ocean profitable through extensive innovation. In order for this to take place, there must be governmental tools available. The free market is an extremely powerful tool of innovation, but it must work within the confines of regulation which point the cannon of capitalism in the right, and not the wrong direction.
Two pertinent things are of high likelihood; that anthropogenic climate change is real; and that the effects will be extremely costly.
I don't see how we have much of a choice here.
As for:
> Either everybody does it, or those who do while everybody else doesn't, can shit gold bars every morning
I agree, it's a nasty prisoners' dilemma of which the Nash equilibrium is that all countries will play chicken until we all live in the new Sahara desert.
>Just as they managed to make drilling for under the ocean profitable through extensive innovation. In order for this to take place, there must be governmental tools available. The free market is an extremely powerful tool of innovation, but it must work within the confines of regulation which point the cannon of capitalism in the right, and not the wrong direction.
1) There's no free market, and it's not new, now it's apparent
2) They buy all the innovation/intellectual properties, and they hold them, they hoard if you will. And they won't release the next "thing" until the old thing is no longer generating a profit. It's called maximization of profit. And the next thing, will be as much of a toll as the old, otherwise, it's not interesting, they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot.
3) Asking .gov to step in and do something about it, is to forget who runs the show here, who pays who to do what. The golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. Always has been always will be.
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You're looking for solutions at the wrong place. THE solution, isn't a new toy from the toy makers, and government isn't salvation. The solution, the real solution, is spiritual and moral, at the individual level, all over the collective; you don't need cops to enforce the Law, when everybody is his own cop, acting in good faith, to put it simply.
And yes it's the cheapest solution, it's not about money, and it's also the hardest to achieve and at the same time the simplest, and in the end it's the only real solution
And it's also an utopia, we'll never make it, too much dumb people, too much niggers if you will, self absorbed drones, all about muh dick, and it will never change, it's always been like that
Now, another solution, is to do the exact opposite of what you suggest; Not more intervention, .gov or otherwise. Much less, none, stop helping, let it die en masse. Survivors will get a chance to start over. Death is the ultimate fail safe.
Talking about "anthropogenic climate change" Do you know why africa's demography looks like this? https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/55d38ec0dd089595388b46c6-750-563.png
You think this isn't a problem?
It looks like this because we've been "helping", we prevent death from offsetting birth. At the end of the day we all end up with one steak for 10, what do we do with that?
You seem concerned by the environment, what to say about that? https://silverbirdtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Slum.jpg
What do you do with billions of idiots, entire nations, like that? Why do people let things turn to shit, like that? Because they are retarded, because they end up using tech they couldn't have come up with on their own.... And then end up dealing with issues they can't handle, unsurprisingly....
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