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I've noticed that a good deal of the people defending Q-followers are depicting the doubters/skeptics as if they:

  • have no faith
  • hate the concept of hope
  • get off on dispelling others of their hope
  • were a bunch of black-pilled cynics
  • were a bunch of bullies that want to hate others for no other reason than to hate

On the contrary, imagine that you work in the healthcare field. You have a patient whose results have just come back from the radiologist. There are massive tumors throughout the brain, which are inoperable. You know this person has around six months to live.

As the person who is in control of what information that patient receives, what is the most moral choice you could make? Should you conceal that information and let this individual live in ignorance of their fate? Or, should you tell this person exactly what is coming?

We'd think that if terminal illness was a matter of fact, it would be better to tell this person the facts. They might like to do some things that were important to them, which they might neglect to do without this knowledge. They may wish to see certain people and generally alter their priorities for the six remaining months of their life.

I'm saying that when it comes to Q, a lot of us haven't been 'making fun' of Q-followers for the sole purpose of having a go at them. Most of us believe that we can see these people getting their hopes up for something that is going to let them down massively, and it would be better to tell them that the case is terminal. This way, they can prepare for what is really coming. If not, the let down from this hopium is going to act like being hit by a fucking freight train.

Allowing someone a fairly innocuous fantasy is one thing. We don't think it's that important to tell our friend they are a little too heavy for their outfit, if we see that they are currently feeling very confident about themselves. It's not a bubble worth bursting.

But some bubbles are worth it to burst, when we see that the wishful thinking has transcended a short-lived fancy, and has become something on which a person has balanced their hopes for life and the future. That isn't an act of hatred or bullying, even though it might feel negative at the time it's being said. It's an authentically considerate act.

Where cases of antagonizing the Q community have come up, I think a great deal of it has arisen from frustration on the part of people who realize its falsehood. They are trying to give the news about the terminal illness, but the patient is refusing to hear it. At some point, some individuals transition from care to mockery. The danger in this is that the mockery is often taken by believers as some vague reason to solidify their wishful thinking - the 'shill' effect.

If the Q predictions wound up being true, I'd be the first to kiss your asses. Keeping with the analogy, I'd resign from my job at the hospital, pronto. But we don't live our lives by making decisions that take seriously the most miraculous and unlikely outcomes. The person with terminal cancer, given news about having six months remaining, would be unwise to spend the next six months as if their belief that a miracle is going to happen is infallibly true.

I've noticed that a good deal of the people defending Q-followers are depicting the doubters/skeptics as if they: - have no faith - hate the concept of hope - get off on dispelling others of their hope - were a bunch of black-pilled cynics - were a bunch of bullies that want to hate others for no other reason than to hate On the contrary, imagine that you work in the healthcare field. You have a patient whose results have just come back from the radiologist. There are massive tumors throughout the brain, which are inoperable. You know this person has around six months to live. As the person who is in control of what information that patient receives, what is the most moral choice you could make? Should you conceal that information and let this individual live in ignorance of their fate? Or, should you tell this person exactly what is coming? We'd think that if terminal illness was a matter of fact, it would be better to tell this person the facts. They might like to do some things that were important to them, which they might neglect to do without this knowledge. They may wish to see certain people and generally alter their priorities for the six remaining months of their life. I'm saying that when it comes to Q, a lot of us haven't been 'making fun' of Q-followers for the sole purpose of having a go at them. Most of us believe that we can see these people getting their hopes up for something that is going to let them down massively, and it would be better to tell them that the case is terminal. This way, they can prepare for what is really coming. If not, the let down from this hopium is going to act like being hit by a fucking freight train. Allowing someone a fairly innocuous fantasy is one thing. We don't think it's that important to tell our friend they are a little too heavy for their outfit, if we see that they are currently feeling very confident about themselves. It's not a bubble worth bursting. But some bubbles are worth it to burst, when we see that the wishful thinking has transcended a short-lived fancy, and has become something on which a person has balanced their hopes for life and the future. That isn't an act of hatred or bullying, even though it might feel negative at the time it's being said. It's an authentically considerate act. Where cases of antagonizing the Q community have come up, I think a great deal of it has arisen from frustration on the part of people who realize its falsehood. They are *trying* to give the news about the terminal illness, but the patient is refusing to hear it. At some point, some individuals transition from *care* to mockery. The danger in this is that the mockery is often taken by believers as some vague reason to solidify their wishful thinking - the 'shill' effect. If the Q predictions wound up being true, I'd be the first to kiss your asses. Keeping with the analogy, I'd resign from my job at the hospital, pronto. But we don't live our lives by making decisions that take seriously the most miraculous and unlikely outcomes. The person with terminal cancer, given news about having six months remaining, would be unwise to spend the next six months *as if* their belief that a miracle is going to happen is infallibly true.

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You want to hate on Qanon?

I'm telling you right now that it would help your cause a lot more if you weren't playing up the victim card. Did you honestly read my post, or the title even? There is no way to construe what I said in that post as hatred, but part of what keeps this in-group dynamic alive is identifying enemy groups. I have to be an enemy shill because you categorize everyone according to that binary. It's horseshit.

"The most damage they are doing right now is telling people NOT to protest at the inauguration."

That's not my claim.

You are confusing hope and expectation.

There is a far better case that you are. Hope would be, "Gee, it would sure be nice if Trump were orchestrating something behind the scenes to correct this course we're on. I guess we'll see." Q makes predictions. Let's not attempt to gaslight anybody here, and pretend that Q has not made concrete predictions, down to the day and to the nature of the event that was supposed to take place. Those days have all come, they've all passed, and those things didn't take place. There was a time I had hope that Q was true, until November 2017 when Q made a big to do about some operation that was going down over the weekend (I cannot remember which weekend). I happened to be in Milwaukee over the weekend, and I remember clearly that advert in the the NYT, I believe, about the riots that were going to take place. I vaguely remember the Q drops talking about forces being mobilized and everything that was supposed to go down. Hilary was supposed to be arrested. Nothing fucking happened.

A prediction creates an expectation.

Their main complaint is always not "naming the Jew"

I think you are setting up some straw men here, including this and the Alex Jones bit. Do you honestly think that the main complaint people have about Q is the absence of the JQ? Come on. You're pretending.

The main reason people have doubted Q is because whoever is responsible for these drops has made egregiously wrong predictions, time and again. Don't get me wrong. These aren't the only complaints. However, as you have demonstrated, the other major complaints can be argued away with coherent reasoning. For example, the condescending and infuriating way that, for four years, Q has continued to talk in code so as to get people to invest time connecting dots, instead of just being straight with people. That's a major red flag, but it can be reasoned away: "Q has to talk in code in order to maintain cover."

Everything can be reasoned away except where Q has put his dick on the table and made concrete claims/predictions.

The reason people lost faith, and why they are trying to get you to see this is bullshit, is because none of those predictions has come true. Instead, they've all been false, and yet we see time and again the following process occur:

https://poal.co/s/QStorm/249143/d74943e2-493b-41e8-bc43-1fb8ec140260

Once we've seen this cycle occur enough times, we clue in.

So, from our point of view, people who bash us are either:

Or, it's like I said in my post. Many of us just see pathological things going on, and we care enough to say something. I established that some people get so frustrated with the inanity of it that they begin to mock or bash you. That's bound to happen past a certain stage, i.e. when you continue to pursue and promulgate ideas that have proven themselves to be false. You should also consider that many conservatives have another reason to resent Q: its obvious inanity means it can easily be used by the mainstream media to discredit conservatives generally. In other words, there comes a point where it makes things more difficult for us to 'have you associated with our team.'

And no offense but your analogy is just shit.

I didn't think it was too bad.

Fine, you have that right, I understand that, but instead of the generalized attacks how about you guys start telling us which drops you have a problem with.

You keep suggesting that it is not possible to know whether Q is false or not until we've read every drop. That's just not true. Now, I'm a religious believer, but I would never say that someone needs to read every single word of the Bible before they are able to argue it's false (if that is what they believe). That's nonsense.

I don't have the time or the inclination to go and discover exactly what number was attached to any of the drops that make the failed predictions. It is sufficient that I know they exist, and plenty of other people know generally what I'm referring to, including you. There have been wrong predictions made many times for a number of years. That is enough to discredit the idea and the credibility of Q.