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What the GOP can do, and what is coming.

Continuing the illusion and charade of democracy is cruel.

And more, it is probably a strategic mistake at this point.

But if the GOP want to maintain the game of the purple revolution, there best bet is total outsiders. Keep them off the mainstream. And have them fight the vaccine mandates and related mandates at every turn. They have the victim narrative, and the pentagon and establishment supports the divide-them-by-jab-support narrative. All they need is someone to give voice to the outrage and outcry.

Obviously its all theater anyway, their all fakes and grifters, but thats a given.

The best fake they could buy was probably the pillow guy, or the mccloskeys.

a former crackhead, so that instantly gives them leverage, and a never ending talking point "GOP literally voting for a crackhead!" Might as well call the party over. Any legitimacy they had remaining would be gone. So naturally if they work for the DNC, their best move to appease anyone on our side who also still believes in the GOP would be for him to get into office
The mcCloskeys, "gun owners", who when the chips were down, gave up their guns, and are in all but name, big city libshit lawyers who support big city libshit policies. That'll go over well for maybe one or two terms before they morph into john mccain.

GOP is done.

And when the powers that be realize that, whatever party they try to replace it with will fail even harder because

We already see the pattern of how the media organs of the junta in dc create fake legitimacy
the junta will not be able to control its base or its own impulses to destroy its fake opposition outright.

And any false opposition party the junta created would have to be able to do things that even the GOP isn't allowed to get away with. That is, if people are to believe in it and support it. Without that they'll just assume they're more RINO-shit working for the ~~American CCP.~~ DNC.

The high from the hopium has run out in america. People dont want it any more.

So if they don't want hope, the federal government must rule by fear in order to maintain power. The only other alternative is for the DNC to clamp down on the fanaticism of their own base, which is driving the right and the middle into the (correct belief) that the other half of america wants to use the government to commit to a path of despotism and eventual genocide against anyone who supports anything rightwing. And frankly I think the DNC doesn't have the guts or ability to tamp down on that fanaticism now. Their base is out for blood.

In order to control and contain america they will have to rule by iron-fisted fear.

Some might say "try iron fist in velvet glove" and they'd be wrong. Softness will embolden america at this point, in a way that risks a political momentum that would lead to loss of control by DC. Softness is what got us Trump, and despite him being a compromise candidate, I'm thankful the elites were stupid and soft enough that they failed to prevent his election.

But we're past that now.

Whats coming is rule by iron rod. DC is out of options and if they in their soft-headed stupidity haven't realized it by now, it won't be more than 3-6 months before they do.

I do not think america will punish these people or fight back until america has been beaten like a stray dog.

Continuing the illusion and charade of democracy is cruel. And more, it is probably a strategic mistake at this point. But if the GOP want to maintain the game of the purple revolution, there best bet is total outsiders. Keep them off the mainstream. And have them fight the vaccine mandates and related mandates at every turn. They have the victim narrative, and the pentagon and establishment supports the divide-them-by-jab-support narrative. All they need is someone to give voice to the outrage and outcry. Obviously its all theater anyway, their all fakes and grifters, but thats a given. The best fake they could buy was probably the pillow guy, or the mccloskeys. 1. a former crackhead, so that instantly gives them leverage, and a never ending talking point "GOP literally voting for a crackhead!" Might as well call the party over. Any legitimacy they had remaining would be gone. So naturally if they work for the DNC, their best move to appease anyone on our side who also still believes in the GOP would be for him to get into office 2. The mcCloskeys, "gun owners", who when the chips were down, gave up their guns, and are in all but name, big city libshit lawyers who support big city libshit policies. That'll go over well for maybe one or two terms before they morph into john mccain. GOP is done. And when the powers that be realize that, whatever party they try to replace it with will fail even harder because 1. We already see the pattern of how the media organs of the junta in dc create fake legitimacy 2. the junta will not be able to control its base or its own impulses to destroy its fake opposition outright. And any false opposition party the junta created would have to be able to do things that even the GOP isn't allowed to get away with. That is, if people are to believe in it and support it. Without that they'll just assume they're more RINO-shit working for the ~~American CCP.~~ DNC. The high from the hopium has run out in america. People dont *want* it any more. So if they don't want hope, the federal government must rule by fear in order to maintain power. The only other alternative is for the DNC to clamp down on the fanaticism of their own base, which is driving the right and the middle into the (correct belief) that the other half of america wants to use the government to commit to a path of despotism and eventual genocide against anyone who supports anything rightwing. And frankly I think the DNC doesn't have the guts or ability to tamp down on that fanaticism now. Their base is out for blood. In order to control and contain america they will have to rule by iron-fisted fear. Some might say "try iron fist in velvet glove" and they'd be wrong. Softness will embolden america at this point, in a way that risks a political momentum that would lead to loss of control by DC. Softness is what got us Trump, and despite him being a compromise candidate, I'm thankful the elites were stupid and soft enough that they failed to prevent his election. But we're past that now. Whats coming is rule by iron rod. DC is out of options and if they in their soft-headed stupidity haven't realized it by now, it won't be more than 3-6 months before they do. I do not think america will punish these people or fight back until america has been beaten like a stray dog.

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Until we get over this false paradigm charade, we're all going to be poor, helpless and apathetic. I don't see how you guys aren't getting it. You were all trapped in your homes, so you say, for a year and a half and not only did none of you think to peruse topics that are generally out of your reach because of the time you devote to the wage cage without question, you didn't even bother to coordinate with local groups to reform local politics, you didn't do strenuous work to dismantle the Mockingbird Media ruse, you didn't work to skirt the political dichotomy ruse and I doubt most of you even worked your hand at attaining financial freedoms.

You guys don't even know where to start, let alone how to use the right form of "their". There is no hope for the proles if not themselves. No one will do this heavy lifting for you. Until you figure out how to help yourselves, this shallow rambling in echo chambers so many of you are disposed to will entirely lack effort, will get you nowhere and, unfortunately, probably do less to help you than you seem to think.

At the very least, help me piss off young men around the world enough until they can't take this shit anymore and decide to actually start doing things that matter. We don't want to create a bunch of vigilantes or anything, but we don't (oops should say do) want men to start getting laid, to give up on the feminist scheme and to start becoming financially independent. I don't see how you guys keep avoiding the obvious solutions.

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Until we get over this false paradigm charade, we're all going to be poor, helpless and apathetic.

Agreed. I still often fall into the left/right game, when its actually totalitarians vs independants.

You were all trapped in your homes, so you say, for a year and a half and not only did none of you think to peruse topics that are generally out of your reach because of the time you devote to the wage cage without question

Generalizing, theres been modest but increasing push back, which is why DC is panicking (though the "death spiral" narrative is overblown).

you didn't even bother to coordinate with local groups to reform local politics, you didn't do strenuous work to dismantle the Mockingbird Media ruse

Many americans have zero resources or ability for that sort of strategy. Look at the outcry over the taliban recieving shiny packets of 10k in cash, how many people wrote "this would change my life", or "imagine how many millions of americans lives would be changed by just one of those."

And thats the truth. The middle class is dead, and whats left of it is stuck on pensions, their childrens children eyeball deep in their parents ~~debt~~ future and current inflation.

you didn't work to skirt the political dichotomy ruse

More than half of the american public is completely unrecoverable and if you were honest you would admit this. Roughly 3/4ths the left, and half of the right are completely demoralized, gone, in terms of reform or usefulness to any real cause or movement. They will always be splinterable if they get momentum, always be subvertable if they form a movement, always demoralizable if they rally around a political goal or other mission.

I doubt most of you even worked your hand at attaining financial freedoms.

This is a dream you are sold by those hawking slavery through a vanishing pension system, or a mortgage system being used to asset-burst strip mine the u.s. through debt. It is a delusion you've been handed through a pithy phrase, by outright looters and murderers.

"financial freedom" only means you'll have it stolen later and more slowly, instead of immediately and all at once like many middle class small business owners under covid lockdowns.

You guys don't even know where to start,

We know exactly a number of good places to start but the enemy and federal agency's controls almost all channels, infiltrates all channels they don't control, subverts all movements, destroy or co-opt all causes and independent leaders, annihilate anyone who gets in their way, and terrorize anyone who tries to stand up to them.

Go ask the subverted proud boys. They arrested their supposed federal informant leader (excellent way of splintering a leader from their own legitimacy btw), for what a federal informant who joined the proud boys did, a guy the leader didnt even know by name, had never met, and did not recruit. And yet the entire organization was guilty by proxy. So theres your first amendment, gone. And your right to free association. Gone. And your right to innocence before guilt, gone.

let alone how to use the right form of "their".

Not everyone proof reads all the time. This is a casual forum.

You can't even talk of solutions, even legal ones, without being targeted. For example, I guarantee my names on a list somewhere, not that I give a shit anymore. And yours too.

There is no hope for the proles if not themselves.

Irrelevant and an attempted blackpill if I ever saw one.

They must be made to want to throw off this government and any compromise this government will attempt once its forced to. There can't be any compromise with them, because the state will always, once its in a better position, attempt to renege on its agreements. It is without honor or a scrap of credibility.

Until you figure out how to help yourselves,

You know how many people I've contacted.

Dozens.

They all rightly concluded 1. they would be destroyed by the federal government for organizing anything, even peacefully (which I always promote anyway) 2. despite knowing what it will cost them, and for all their talk, no one has ever taken me or anyone else here or elsewhere up on any sort of idea to organize. Cowardice, lack of discipline, and lack of initiative. More importantly, they lack the conviction of their words.

this shallow rambling in echo chambers so many of you are disposed to will entirely lack effort,

I disagree. It's been a great help on changing my views, as well as sharpening and clarifying my thoughts and beliefs. It has been absolutely invaluable in that regard.

unfortunately, probably do less to help you than you seem to think.

It has acted as a centralized location for distributing important information, and getting people on board to the same way of thinking, that the state is out of control. This site, and other sites, have acted at least as a maintainer of at least steady state levels of support for ideas, hope, and discussion of the threats facing the united states and the west and it will continue to do so for as long as its useful.

At the very least, help me piss off young men around the world enough

I don't think anyone here that is honest is opposed to spreading a good message, but why help you in particular?

Just on my part, all sorts of vetting questions come to mind:

Is he smart enough not to talk about subjects that give the state reason to use unlimited resources and force against us?

If any of us contact him, or give him our contact, will he have the conviction of his beliefs to actually follow through, or will he bow out because hes chickenshit and scared about consequences?

Does he understand optics, when to ignore optics, and when optics are important. Or does he fall into the stupid camp of only believing either optics is all important, or optics isnt important at all?

Does he understand the importance of logistics?

Does he have real skin in it all, or does he just want to be a weekend revolutionary and blow off steam?

Does he have the ability to work as a tight knit team, or the willingness to learn? Does he have humility and the right attitude when crunch time comes? Or is it all just about dick measuring and being part of a group of guys for the sake of being part of a group?

Is he a mouthy bitch that wants to talk a big game and get blackbagged, or does he shut his mouth and walk the walk?

These are all questions and measuring sticks I apply to everyone I meet and everyone I talk to.

Basically are you full of bullshit, or are you sober and serious?

These are not the only questions worth asking, but they are a good start.

> Until we get over this false paradigm charade, we're all going to be poor, helpless and apathetic. Agreed. I still often fall into the left/right game, when its actually totalitarians vs independants. > You were all trapped in your homes, so you say, for a year and a half and not only did none of you think to peruse topics that are generally out of your reach because of the time you devote to the wage cage without question Generalizing, theres been modest but increasing push back, which is why DC is panicking (though the "death spiral" narrative is overblown). > you didn't even bother to coordinate with local groups to reform local politics, you didn't do strenuous work to dismantle the Mockingbird Media ruse Many americans have zero resources or ability for that sort of strategy. Look at the outcry over the taliban recieving shiny packets of 10k in cash, how many people wrote "this would change my life", or "imagine how many millions of americans lives would be changed by just one of those." And thats the truth. The middle class is dead, and whats left of it is stuck on pensions, their childrens children eyeball deep in their parents ~~debt~~ future and current inflation. > you didn't work to skirt the political dichotomy ruse More than half of the american public is completely unrecoverable and if you were honest you would admit this. Roughly 3/4ths the left, and half of the right are completely demoralized, gone, in terms of reform or usefulness to any real cause or movement. They will always be splinterable if they get momentum, always be subvertable if they form a movement, always demoralizable if they rally around a political goal or other mission. > I doubt most of you even worked your hand at attaining financial freedoms. This is a dream you are sold by those hawking slavery through a vanishing pension system, or a mortgage system being used to asset-burst strip mine the u.s. through debt. It is a delusion you've been handed through a pithy phrase, by outright looters and murderers. "financial freedom" only means you'll have it stolen *later* and more slowly, instead of *immediately and all at once* like many middle class small business owners under covid lockdowns. > You guys don't even know where to start, We know exactly a number of good places to start but the enemy and federal agency's controls almost all channels, infiltrates all channels they don't control, subverts *all* movements, destroy or co-opt all causes and independent leaders, annihilate anyone who gets in their way, and terrorize anyone who tries to stand up to them. Go ask the subverted proud boys. They arrested their supposed federal informant leader (excellent way of splintering a leader from their own legitimacy btw), for what a *federal informant who joined the proud boys did*, a guy the leader didnt even know by name, had never met, and did not recruit. And yet the entire organization was guilty by proxy. So theres your first amendment, gone. And your right to free association. Gone. And your right to innocence before guilt, gone. > let alone how to use the right form of "their". Not everyone proof reads all the time. This is a casual forum. You can't even talk of solutions, even legal ones, without being targeted. For example, I guarantee my names on a list somewhere, not that I give a shit anymore. And yours too. > There is no hope for the proles if not themselves. Irrelevant and an attempted blackpill if I ever saw one. They must be *made* to *want* to throw off this government and any compromise this government will attempt once its forced to. There can't be any compromise with them, because the state will always, once its in a better position, attempt to renege on its agreements. It is without honor or a scrap of credibility. > Until you figure out how to help yourselves, You know how many people I've contacted. Dozens. They all rightly concluded 1. they would be destroyed by the federal government for organizing anything, even peacefully (which I always promote anyway) 2. despite knowing what it will cost them, and for all their talk, no one has ever taken me or anyone else here or elsewhere up on any sort of idea to organize. Cowardice, lack of discipline, and lack of initiative. More importantly, they lack the conviction of their words. > this shallow rambling in echo chambers so many of you are disposed to will entirely lack effort, I disagree. It's been a great help on changing my views, as well as sharpening and clarifying my thoughts and beliefs. It has been absolutely invaluable in that regard. > unfortunately, probably do less to help you than you seem to think. It has acted as a centralized location for distributing important information, and getting people on board to the same way of thinking, that the state is out of control. This site, and other sites, have acted at least as a maintainer of at least *steady state* levels of support for ideas, hope, and discussion of the threats facing the united states and the west and it will continue to do so for as long as its useful. > At the very least, help me piss off young men around the world enough I don't think anyone here that is honest is opposed to spreading a good message, but why help you in particular? Just on my part, all sorts of vetting questions come to mind: Is he smart enough not to talk about subjects that give the state reason to *use unlimited resources and force* against us? If any of us contact him, or give him our contact, will he have the conviction of his beliefs to actually follow through, or will he bow out because hes chickenshit and scared about consequences? Does he understand optics, when to ignore optics, and when optics are important. Or does he fall into the stupid camp of *only* believing either optics is *all important*, or *optics isnt important at all*? Does he understand the importance of logistics? Does he have real skin in it all, or does he just want to be a weekend revolutionary and blow off steam? Does he have the ability to work as a tight knit team, or the willingness to learn? Does he have humility and the right attitude when crunch time comes? Or is it all just about dick measuring and being part of a group of guys for the sake of being part of a group? Is he a mouthy bitch that wants to talk a big game and get blackbagged, or does he shut his mouth and walk the walk? These are all questions and measuring sticks I apply to everyone I meet and everyone I talk to. Basically are you full of bullshit, or are you sober and serious? These are not the only questions worth asking, but they are a good start.

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