Until we get over this false paradigm charade, we're all going to be poor, helpless and apathetic.

Agreed. I still often fall into the left/right game, when its actually totalitarians vs independants.

You were all trapped in your homes, so you say, for a year and a half and not only did none of you think to peruse topics that are generally out of your reach because of the time you devote to the wage cage without question

Generalizing, theres been modest but increasing push back, which is why DC is panicking (though the "death spiral" narrative is overblown).

you didn't even bother to coordinate with local groups to reform local politics, you didn't do strenuous work to dismantle the Mockingbird Media ruse

Many americans have zero resources or ability for that sort of strategy. Look at the outcry over the taliban recieving shiny packets of 10k in cash, how many people wrote "this would change my life", or "imagine how many millions of americans lives would be changed by just one of those."

And thats the truth. The middle class is dead, and whats left of it is stuck on pensions, their childrens children eyeball deep in their parents debt future and current inflation.

you didn't work to skirt the political dichotomy ruse

More than half of the american public is completely unrecoverable and if you were honest you would admit this. Roughly 3/4ths the left, and half of the right are completely demoralized, gone, in terms of reform or usefulness to any real cause or movement. They will always be splinterable if they get momentum, always be subvertable if they form a movement, always demoralizable if they rally around a political goal or other mission.

I doubt most of you even worked your hand at attaining financial freedoms.

This is a dream you are sold by those hawking slavery through a vanishing pension system, or a mortgage system being used to asset-burst strip mine the u.s. through debt. It is a delusion you've been handed through a pithy phrase, by outright looters and murderers.

"financial freedom" only means you'll have it stolen later and more slowly, instead of immediately and all at once like many middle class small business owners under covid lockdowns.

You guys don't even know where to start,

We know exactly a number of good places to start but the enemy and federal agency's controls almost all channels, infiltrates all channels they don't control, subverts all movements, destroy or co-opt all causes and independent leaders, annihilate anyone who gets in their way, and terrorize anyone who tries to stand up to them.

Go ask the subverted proud boys. They arrested their supposed federal informant leader (excellent way of splintering a leader from their own legitimacy btw), for what a federal informant who joined the proud boys did, a guy the leader didnt even know by name, had never met, and did not recruit. And yet the entire organization was guilty by proxy. So theres your first amendment, gone. And your right to free association. Gone. And your right to innocence before guilt, gone.

let alone how to use the right form of "their".

Not everyone proof reads all the time. This is a casual forum.

You can't even talk of solutions, even legal ones, without being targeted. For example, I guarantee my names on a list somewhere, not that I give a shit anymore. And yours too.

There is no hope for the proles if not themselves.

Irrelevant and an attempted blackpill if I ever saw one.

They must be made to want to throw off this government and any compromise this government will attempt once its forced to. There can't be any compromise with them, because the state will always, once its in a better position, attempt to renege on its agreements. It is without honor or a scrap of credibility.

Until you figure out how to help yourselves,

You know how many people I've contacted.

Dozens.

They all rightly concluded 1. they would be destroyed by the federal government for organizing anything, even peacefully (which I always promote anyway) 2. despite knowing what it will cost them, and for all their talk, no one has ever taken me or anyone else here or elsewhere up on any sort of idea to organize. Cowardice, lack of discipline, and lack of initiative. More importantly, they lack the conviction of their words.

this shallow rambling in echo chambers so many of you are disposed to will entirely lack effort,

I disagree. It's been a great help on changing my views, as well as sharpening and clarifying my thoughts and beliefs. It has been absolutely invaluable in that regard.

unfortunately, probably do less to help you than you seem to think.

It has acted as a centralized location for distributing important information, and getting people on board to the same way of thinking, that the state is out of control. This site, and other sites, have acted at least as a maintainer of at least steady state levels of support for ideas, hope, and discussion of the threats facing the united states and the west and it will continue to do so for as long as its useful.

At the very least, help me piss off young men around the world enough

I don't think anyone here that is honest is opposed to spreading a good message, but why help you in particular?

Just on my part, all sorts of vetting questions come to mind:

Is he smart enough not to talk about subjects that give the state reason to use unlimited resources and force against us?

If any of us contact him, or give him our contact, will he have the conviction of his beliefs to actually follow through, or will he bow out because hes chickenshit and scared about consequences?

Does he understand optics, when to ignore optics, and when optics are important. Or does he fall into the stupid camp of only believing either optics is all important, or optics isnt important at all?

Does he understand the importance of logistics?

Does he have real skin in it all, or does he just want to be a weekend revolutionary and blow off steam?

Does he have the ability to work as a tight knit team, or the willingness to learn? Does he have humility and the right attitude when crunch time comes? Or is it all just about dick measuring and being part of a group of guys for the sake of being part of a group?

Is he a mouthy bitch that wants to talk a big game and get blackbagged, or does he shut his mouth and walk the walk?

These are all questions and measuring sticks I apply to everyone I meet and everyone I talk to.

Basically are you full of bullshit, or are you sober and serious?

These are not the only questions worth asking, but they are a good start.

I'm not quite as eager for the iron fist of fascism to crush us all into one pulpy homogeneous mass as you seem to be.

I'm not eager for it at all.

But imagine if you will:

None of us here is important individually. The federal government and its contractors don't listen to any of us, individually.

But what they do is they collate big volumes of "extremist content", to pour through and get an idea of "emerging problems" and summarize the sentiments and thoughts of various sites and communities.

So lets say out of all that datascraped, 1 in 100 posts make it into that volume.

And out of those, maybe 1 in 100 gets forwarded into a smaller "emerging concerns" volume.

And maybe once every 1-3 months, they gather together all these volumes, from each site, and each community they monitor, and they pick one out of every 100 comments to be included in another volume.

Then some analyst or small group of them summarizes, strategized, and considers the angles and what direction the information indicates the "extremists" are heading.

Now because most of these are cronies, or guys picked for their ability to obey rather than think, they are all midwits. And I'm a midwit, making midwit arguments. Midwit arguments convince midwits.

And therefore, every post I make, is like a lottery ticket: it has a chance of filtering up, where someone whos job it is to decide what direction things are going, will read it and think "this is a good idea" or "this is a bad idea", or "yeah I agree with that."

Then every post is a chance, a small chance, one in a million, but not impossible, to influence the thinking higher up. And because it costs nothing to do, each one of us has every reason to continue. Only fools think they are important, but also, the demoralized don't realize, they are fools to think they have no influence whatsoever. It's infinitesimal but its there.

I am not eager for fascism to crush us, as much shit as I talk. Rather, I believe in our nation and its principles, I just don't think it can be saved as a geopolitical and economic entity. And so the only option is to watch it crash, collapse, and burn. The faster that can happen, the better the outcome will be versus letting it get worse, because the longer it goes on the bigger the risk that the public simply rolls over and out of total demoralization, accepts naked communism. Better to collapse and burn, while anyone is left who hasnt been totally demoralized.

I don't think it can be saved, and if it were, the people who have done what they have done to countless innocents, would probably get away as compromise to save it. And I, in whatever meagre contribution I can make to assure it, simply can't allow them to walk away from what they have done to millions of us.