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They are not very common in First Aid Kits, so this is why I'm wondering if they have proven themselves to be useful in the field.

I would use them as means to control heavy bleeding from gunshots or stab wounds.

They are not very common in First Aid Kits, so this is why I'm wondering if they have proven themselves to be useful in the field. I would use them as means to control heavy bleeding from gunshots or stab wounds.

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That's the kind of info I'm looking for. My main issue was if they are so great, why are they not readily available in all standard first aid kits?

I'm trained in military first aid (not medic or CLS), and have gotten myself the highest level of civilian First Aid Training available. The reason I'm asking this question and considering this powder and gauzes is because I'm trying to see how I could improve my first aid setup mainly for abdomen stab wounds, as getting shot is till unlikely in Europe. I wanted to find an alternative to wound packing as I'm not trained in it and will not find training available where I am.

So this is my current setup for stab wounds to abdomen:

  1. Saline solution to wash the wound and minimize chances of infection

  2. Trauma bandages with a hard insert that improves the ability to apply pressure

  3. Get them to the hospital ASAP or wait for ambulance if it's on the way

Do you think it would be necessary to disinfect the wound with anything more than saline solution? My idea is to focus on stopping the bleeding and getting them to hospital, and let the hospital focus on infection control. The sooner I get them there with minimum blood loss, the better, but I would be more than willing to adjust my idea based on advice from someone like you who has more knowledge on the topic.

I know that in cases of knife still being in the wound it should not be removed, and in case of evisceration the guts should be carefully collected and gently covered with sterile bandages with the idea to get them to hospital ASAP since there is not much you can do in the field.

Also, for chest stab/shot wounds I have chest seals, but have recently seen that there are also 'vented' and 'unvented' options (mine are unvented). For which purpose would vented chest seals be for? They were never mentioned in any of the trainings I had, in military for basic first aid only unvented were used, I'm not sure if medics had both in their kits.

Also any additional advice or equipment recommendations for the purpose of controlling heavy bleeding abdomen wounds or anything in general would be greatly appreciated.

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Celox type hemostatics are specifically contraindicated for abdominal, thoracic and open skull trauma. Verboten. No bueno. Bad news. The 2ndary dangers are too great in those specific bodily neighborhoods. But now we get into the weeds. Hemostatics come in many forms. Natural polymers: collagen, cellulose, chitin..(just hope the patient doesn't have a shell fish allergy) Various synthetic polymers. Metal (usually aluminum or silver) based agents. There may be certain exogenous hemostatics that are ok for ab wounds in the field, but if so, they have been implemented after my time. But Celox is not one of them

Israeli (gasp!) bandages should be in every serious stop-the-bleed kit. They are essentially and pre-fab pressure dressing and are even vac packed to save space. Gauze, chest seals abdominal bandages and the mighty T (tourniquets), too. And, of course, the even mightier T to tie it all together: Training. All the cool guy gear in the world is worth fuck all unless effectively deployed and applied.

[–] • 1 pt

Yeah, I think I'll stay away from any hemostatics, thanks for sharing all the info.

Believe it or not, "Israel" bandage was invented and used in Yugoslavia and was a lot better that what kikes are trying to pass as pissrael invention now. They never made anything in their lives, they just know how to steal and make shitty copies.