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A long time ago, i had made a post at another place about a man i knew in the navy. when he arrived to the ship he ended up getting a girl he was acquainted with on another ship pregnant. Executive summary: She got pregnant because she thought that would get her off the ship and out of the navy. It did not. When she found out she would still have to fulfill her obligation, and that they were going to give the farther shore duty, she became enraged, and drank herself into a miscarriage and used the miscarriage as an excuse to be given a medical discharge.

I have kept up with the man who would have been a father over the years. Eventually he would become sterile due to cancer treatments. So that was his only chance at being a farther, and that ship has sailed.

Now, he always had trouble with relationships, and i suspect it's because he did not really vet the women he hung around with. Do not go to bars to pick up women, that should be a no brainer yet people do that. Really the only purpose a bar serves is to part fools from their money with overpriced drinks.

This goes both ways. We are starting to see the wine aunts commit suicide, because baby rabies is very real. /pol/ has the bumble threads from time to time of the post wall women wanting kids, but that ship has sailed for them. There are serious consequences to this. Right now there is a labor shortage because the boomers are retiring, but they did not have replacements lined up. There will not be as many replacements and contrary to what the "elites" think you can not fill technical jobs with someone off the boat. We will begin seeing the repercussions of people ignoring their biological clocks.

that's the tragedy here. We upturned thousands of years of human culture because corporate America wanted to double the workforce, and Washington wanted more people paying into social security. the end result is now a labor and tax payer shortage. it took a generation but we are here now.

In this stage of clown world, we get to see how the lack of families impacts: society, corporate profits, and political stability. Pay close attention. The traditions of our forefathers were not conceived for stupid reasons, but were the results of thousands of years of observation. We are now relearning this lesson the hard way.

consider this before you completely shun marriage. Yes there are risks, but maybe the reward is worth it?

A long time ago, i had made a post at another place about a man i knew in the navy. when he arrived to the ship he ended up getting a girl he was acquainted with on another ship pregnant. Executive summary: She got pregnant because she thought that would get her off the ship and out of the navy. It did not. When she found out she would still have to fulfill her obligation, and that they were going to give the farther shore duty, she became enraged, and drank herself into a miscarriage and used the miscarriage as an excuse to be given a medical discharge. I have kept up with the man who would have been a father over the years. Eventually he would become sterile due to cancer treatments. So that was his only chance at being a farther, and that ship has sailed. Now, he always had trouble with relationships, and i suspect it's because he did not really vet the women he hung around with. Do not go to bars to pick up women, that should be a no brainer yet people do that. Really the only purpose a bar serves is to part fools from their money with overpriced drinks. This goes both ways. We are starting to see the wine aunts commit suicide, because baby rabies is very real. /pol/ has the bumble threads from time to time of the post wall women wanting kids, but that ship has sailed for them. There are serious consequences to this. Right now there is a labor shortage because the boomers are retiring, but they did not have replacements lined up. There will not be as many replacements and contrary to what the "elites" think you can not fill technical jobs with someone off the boat. We will begin seeing the repercussions of people ignoring their biological clocks. that's the tragedy here. We upturned thousands of years of human culture because corporate America wanted to double the workforce, and Washington wanted more people paying into social security. the end result is now a labor and tax payer shortage. it took a generation but we are here now. In this stage of clown world, we get to see how the lack of families impacts: society, corporate profits, and political stability. Pay close attention. The traditions of our forefathers were not conceived for stupid reasons, but were the results of thousands of years of observation. We are now relearning this lesson the hard way. consider this before you completely shun marriage. Yes there are risks, but maybe the reward is worth it?

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[–] • 2 pts

Tbh at this point, I'd say do not marry UNTIL you have kids. The point of marriage is kids. That whole huge thing your parents pay the equivalent of their house for? It's to secure you stay together for kids.

Too many people getting married for love or obligation. You are SERIOUSLY wasting your time and fucking your own selves up. You'll end up staying with someone past their prime, be a post married person and THEN trying to get married for kids after you've already f'ed yourself up mentally etc?

And for those who think having kids past 30 "is a great idea". Think of your kids. When they're 50, you'll be 80 and probably dead. Sound selfish? There is a good chance you'll be dead by the time they're 40. They're going to lose their parents young.

And if they have their kids at 30 too? You'll barely be around to be grandparents to their kids. Their kids will have grandparents until they're like 10 to 20.

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Until you're ready* to have kids. My wife and I were together over 5 years before I proposed. We were at that point where we were ready to have kids so we got married.

We were in our late 20's and realized how important to have kids younger so we're just popping them out right after one another. It's tough enough at this age, I couldn't imagine waiting another 5-10 years.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Can you really be "ready" to have kids? It's a new life filled with risks and rewards, it's not something you can be prepared for.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

This is a point I've been stressing to my wife. She keeps trying to move the goalpost of when we will have our first kid. She's 28 and I told her that if she's not pregnant by 30, she is going to have a really great 30th birthday party followed by a divorce.

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I read a book that basically said not having kids is the #1 reason for divorce. It also said in the book 1 kid is still basically a 40% chance, 2 kids like 30%. It's not until 3 kids that it goes down to a good number like 12%. And keeps going lower with each extra kid.

I genuinely believe if you don't have kids within 2 years of marriage nature will start to begin to naturally break up the marriage. The earlier the better for happiness I have no doubt.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

We have been married for two and a half years now. Been together for 8. We have been renovating a house together with our families and we are almost done. That was her one condition for having children and she's trying to say we need to save more now. Nah it ain't happening.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4211719/

We suggest that PMS had a selective advantage because it increased the chance that infertile pair bonds would dissolve, thus improving the reproductive outcomes of women in such partnerships.

Nature does it with PMS