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In the video, he also comments about how even they were surprised by how well their tactics worked, and he's right.

I'd estimate that about 95% of people in the West are in this state of complete and irreversible demoralization.

I've even shown this very video to people and they didn't get it at all. Didn't see any parallels to the current state of things. Didn't understand the significance of it whatsoever. I'm like, he's literally talking specifically about you and you don't get it.

It's like a sickening level of irony, and it really chills you to the bone if you're one of the precious few who actually has a functioning brain.

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I hope your estimation is wrong, and if not, I hope that the 5% is alpha enough to remove the demoralized mob of betas.

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I'd like to think the odds are better, but I have never met another person in real life who even knew what the fuck I was talking about.

The thing is, though, that the vast majority of people are just retarded automatons who go through their entire life never questioning anything. They are happy with bread and circuses, and will put up with anything as long as they see everyone else doing it. They simply do not meet the IQ threshold for curiosity. They have no way of finding the truth because they literally cannot formulate the necessary questions which would lead in its direction.

I think that most if not all great events in human history were the result of a small group of people who look up from the ground and say to each other... "you seein' this shit?" So in that sense, it's probably somewhat less grim than you would think. By that I mean that it's probably always been 95%.

Places like Poal and Voat are where we meet now. We are in some ways lucky to have these places. However, by their very nature, they also bring with them another set of problems that we have not yet even really acknowledged, let alone addressed in any meaningful way.

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You sound like a smart fella, brother.

God bless you.

HH

o/

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I'm feeling what you are feeling. For most of my life I labored under the impression or false idea that if I explained my position and what I was seeing and basic facts we all know, those who were making bullshit arguments would say, "Oh, I see your point" and all would be good. Nope. They just come up with well worn talking points that have no basis in fact. Talking points they learned in University or from main stream news. There are no facts you can state that will impress them or change their mind.

I've seen them do this on point after point, person after person and it slowly dawned on me that it's a wasted argument. It's lost on them.

They are unable to take a set of real world facts and apply them to a new understanding.

For instance, I explained to a coworker about fiat currency and our monetary system back about ten years ago when I first realized it can not last as is. I always thought that these doomsday predictions of the dollar collapsing was pure bullshit until I did my own research on monetary systems and the Federal Reserve Bank and how it functions. In about a month I came to the unhappy realization that our system was so deeply flawed that a collapse was inevitable.

I patiently explained all this to a coworker and he laughed. He said as long as he had cash to buy beer and enjoy his weekend he was fine. The money was good. Totally didn't understand a thing I had said. Same people will insist that covid is real, masks work and grandma died from covid. No, dumbass, your grandma was killed for $40,000.00. Nice work if you can get it.

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Well said and I couldn’t agree with you more. Had same realization. Not a single normie understood the video

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Useful idiots, shills, and the demoralized are frequently indistinguishable.

Demoralization is a contagion. In war, these men are historically sent to the front to die.

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The only reason to discuss or talk to demoralized person is if you know that someone who is not completely demoralizes is listeneing. They are watching and your presentation is like a tv show - if you manage to portray yourself as victorious they will agree with you. This goes for any comment-section, which is why it is important to win online arguments about the future of white people. If 90% of online discussions end in the favor of white people it will tip the scales eventually, if it be because whites are looking for people that support them or because it will seep through the cracks of the matrix, it doesn't matter.

Just imagine how the world would have been if not for message boards. Fuck, I'd probably love diversity if it wasn't for the online dissident-right since I grew up in a place that didn't have actual diversity fucking up everyday life.

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Totally. That's why I sometimes take the time to send a detailed response to a shill. They seem so polite and cultured until you totally blow them out of the water with pure facts and then often they will just resort to personal attacks. Battle won. Normies who were observing from the sidelines now have something to think about.

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Thanks, saved me from asking. Never heard of this. Will listen to while making dinner tonight.

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Compare to today's politics. Shockingly prescient. Keep in mind this was over 50 years ago.

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Yes, I think fact that is that old makes it more impactful. I don't mind production/audiovis quality. Watched a lot of Dick Cavett when too young to understand 5 syllable words.

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Much praise. I've watched it at least five or six times and pick up on new stuff more relevant to today.

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One thing to be cognizant of.

When Bezmenov talks about Demoralisation, he's not talking about a loss of Morale or hope....he's talking about a loss of Morals.

It's a loss of the ethical framework that underpins your value system. This is what he means

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Exactly. A zero value ideology. All religions and politics and culture are equal in their mind. Zero ethics. Or, as the left likes to say, "Situational Ethics" In other words, no ethics at all. If the left didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.

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There is another variant I've discovered over the years and they are the mirror people. They nod to what you say and smile when you make points but you know they are actively rejecting everything you say while cajoling you. That's why I enjoy that movie American Psycho everyone in that movie is a tossed salad of NPC's, Sociopaths, and Mirror People.

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There's no reason to talk to these people. They'll come to their senses or they won't.

instead of the 5% number given below, I'd estimate that the number of people that are still functional are around 15% with another 10% that are non-functional, but who have been personally wronged by the system, so they oppose it. (usually in a quiet way).
I do completely agree with not trying to help NPC's wake up. Up front, in their face, fact filled discussions are fruitless and frustrating. Especially as they continue to walk, single-file and masked, to get their DNA-altering jab for no real, justifiable, logical reason whatsoever.

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I also want to believe that nothing is absolute. That even the irreversibly demoralized can be remedied in those who still have a sense of the soul. Although, this change can only occur through them, and only when everything in their world falls apart. If they can still sense it, the soul, and are willing to give up their grip on it, there is an opportunity to reappropriate their understanding on everything they think they know.

It would be a rare phenomenon, and maybe I'm delusional in believing this, but like I said above, I want to believe that man's arrogance is not absolute when its in confrontation with nature. For most, yes, but not all.

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The brain becomes hardwired to a certain pattern of thinking. The brain can be rewired, and it is in fact always slowly doing that as part of how we adapt to our changing environment. However, the process takes much longer once the neural pathways have become strong through repeated use, (like muscle.). It takes longer to teach an old dog new tricks because the brain rewires more slowly, and the preexisting pathways are already very strong. Same for how it takes longer to repair repetitive strain injuries.

A strong neural pathway will eventually atrophy and die from disuse. Think like overcoming a powerful addiction like alcoholism. Or getting past the emotional pain of the death of a dear loved one. The neural pathways associated with these processes will often remain active for many years even if they are deliberately avoided.

Alcoholics Anonymous is a group psychology brainwashing program designed to get a person to choose not to satisfy the craving for alcohol in a process very similar to hypnosis, knowing that the neural pathways associated with alcohol use take a very long time to atrophy.

Military Boot camp, roughly the same thing: group psychology brainwashing again. Government sponsored active job finding training classes, same thing again. MSM media narrative is mass brainwashing for the entire population. So they must dominate the communications for it to be effective.

We can crack the programming, but we have to keep hammering away at it. Moments like the Trump presidency are kind of like a resonant frequency, when the power of all of the hammering is magnified a thousand fold, and the energy of that effort builds up to an explosive level. It came to dominate the waking lives of many people, and I feel that 20 years of progress was achieved in a few short years. Tens of millions were awakened from their slumber, and remain awake even now. What they have awakened to, they probably do not yet understand.

A genie has been unleashed and the powers that be are trying, with some success, to put that genie back into the bottle.

At the end of the day, it is an endless battle of good vrs evil, and neither side ever truly achieves total victory. We fight to save those who can be saved. Truthfully, our recent years have been some of the best in at least the last several centuries. The internet has made that possible.

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There's also neuroplasticity, the ability for one to rewire their brain pathway instantly using psilocybin. I have personal experience with this, I had a bad stutter all my life, couldn't say two words without tripping on them. In my early twenties, after several "trips" I started noticing a deeper level to the experience that I wasn't able to experience in a social environment, what I mean is, the group I was with would ruin the experience, eg: I would be having a profound spiritually fulfilling experience, only to be forced back to the environment of the group because "something was funny or weird".

Then, I did it on my own, I still had a bad stutter at this time too. I ate four grams of liberty caps and went outside in the woods around my house, found a spot and laid down to enjoy the experience. Awhile later, I started thinking about my life, purpose, God...then it hit me, why do I stutter? My tongue is not deformed, it should work properly, then all of a sudden I had this strong epiphany, I realized it was all in my head and I started to laugh.

I never stuttered again after that night.

I researched stammering too, there is no cure. They have no idea why it happens. The best options provided to you are speech therapy and anxiety medicine.

I picked mushrooms in the cows fields around my home, ate them, and now twenty years later, I still do not stutter.

I wanted to share this story with you brother, take care.

HH

o/

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I've learned most people don't like to be told what to think or to be proved wrong. They have to come to the conclusion themselves. The way to do that is to question their beliefs and motives steering them to the answers but not giving them the answers directly. Let them by themselves figure out the correct answers.

It's like anything else. If you're just given something, you're not going to appreciate its worth, but if you work for something, you will appreciate it more.