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What’s funny to me is watching all these people who otherwise think “the government lies to us about everything” do a 180 with the caveat that “well they lie to us about everything except they’re telling/are about to tell the truth about this particular thing.”

Some people want “aliens” to exist so badly that they make this logical exception to what is usually otherwise a healthy distrust of government and media narratives.

It’s fucking retarded.

Do you want really think that those navy pilots a few years back would have come forward if they weren’t allowed to or more likely, fucking told to? What about the videos shot from their F-18’s? Oh it’s a big secret the government wants to hide but it’s ok, let’s just let the videos out after 60 years of hiding shit.

And all these “whistleblowers”? I don’t know about you guys, but I’m fairly familiar with the way actual, real whistleblowers are treated in this country..and it’s quite a contrast from the way these “UFO guys” are treated. Not to say that they haven’t seen or worked with these craft. I’m just saying they ain’t some race from another planet.

And that David Grusch guy. That dude REEKS “disinformation agent.” I can smell him through the tv. He lies as well as a typical 5 year old.

All that to say…yeah I know this weird shit is flying around. I’ve seen a few of them in my day, actually. But they aren’t fucking “beings from another planet.”

We’re being setup. It’s obvious if you pay attention. They’ve been slowly rolling this out for a while. They want us all to believe in some superior alien race from other planets.

Fake and gay.

What’s funny to me is watching all these people who otherwise think “the government lies to us about everything” do a 180 with the caveat that “well they lie to us about everything *except they’re telling/are about to tell the truth about this particular thing*.” Some people want “aliens” to exist so badly that they make this logical exception to what is usually otherwise a healthy distrust of government and media narratives. It’s fucking retarded. Do you want really think that those navy pilots a few years back would have come forward if they weren’t allowed to or more likely, fucking told to? What about the videos shot from their F-18’s? Oh it’s a big secret the government wants to hide but it’s ok, let’s just let the videos out after 60 years of hiding shit. And all these “whistleblowers”? I don’t know about you guys, but I’m fairly familiar with the way actual, real whistleblowers are treated in this country..and it’s quite a contrast from the way these “UFO guys” are treated. Not to say that they haven’t seen or worked with these craft. I’m just saying they ain’t some race from another planet. And that David Grusch guy. That dude REEKS “disinformation agent.” I can smell him through the tv. He lies as well as a typical 5 year old. All that to say…yeah I know this weird shit is flying around. I’ve seen a few of them in my day, actually. But they aren’t fucking “beings from another planet.” We’re being setup. It’s obvious if you pay attention. They’ve been slowly rolling this out for a while. They want us all to believe in some superior alien race from other planets. Fake and gay.

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A couple of the biggest tipoffs to me has been that in the studies they’ve done on alleged abduction victims, you have a variety of people from different religious backgrounds reporting having been abducted - except for one group: Christians.

Dubious claim

Especially when it comes to cases involving white boomers and generations prior to them, since it's only after boomers that whites not being baptized at birth started to be a thing... So chances are christians aren't immune to alien abductions if there's really such a thing as alien abductions in the first place. Besides, your claim doesn't make much sense, since you associate "aliens" with biblical evil spirits to begin with... Last time I checked christians weren't exactly immune to demonic possession... And merely uttering the name of jesus christ is likely not going to be enough to cut it, just like with demonic possessions, once it's on it's on like donkey kong you'll need an exorcist

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Well, not everyone who professes to be a Christian is. In fact, most “Christians” are nominal at best. Now, they may not know this. Most of them don’t.

So, I don’t use the term “Christian” the way the world uses it, or the way that you apparently use it, for that matter.

I’m talking full-throated, Bible believing, Holy Spirit filled people.

The vast majority of “Christian” denominations either don’t believe what the Bible says or have distorted the meaning(s) of what it says. And they blaspheme and deny the power of the Holy Spirit. They can call themselves “Christians” all they want, but it doesn’t make it so. I can paint spots on my cat and call it a leopard, too. So what? All it means is that I’m deluded into believing a house cat is a wild beast.

So I don’t count those “Christians” in my tally to begin with…whereas it sounds like you do.

The people I’m talking about are men of God who I trust and who I know in my spirit are the real deal. These people have rebuked these crafts and they left.

On the topic of demon possession/oppression as it pertains to Christians in particular, you are partly correct and partly incorrect.

Humans are made of three parts: spirit, soul/mind, and physical body.

A truly saved person is occupied by the Holy Spirit. This happens at the moment of salvation. So, a demon cannot “possess” the spirit of a Christian.

The struggle from the moment of salvation until death is sanctification of the body and soul/mind. It is an ongoing process that does not end until death. The body and soul are the battlegrounds where satan attacks, with a primary emphasis on the soul/mind.

Even a truly saved person can still have parts of their soul/mind that are under the influence (or even control to some degree) of the other side. The process of sanctification is actually the process of getting back and retaining control of those areas.

The Bible talks of “renewing your mind with the washing of the word”. This is precisely what it’s talking about. My spirit is saved, but I need to get my soul/mind up to pace with it in order to live an effective Christian life and be able to manifest the power of the Holy Spirit the way that Jesus and the apostles did.

This is the reason that some Christians are able to manifest things like healing and some aren’t. Those that are more mature Christians and have worked to get their minds in agreement with their spirits, and thus are able to operate the way that all Christians are intended to operate.

All that to say, when a Christian’s mind/soul is not “renewed” and constantly progressing, it is much easier for demonic influence to take hold. And yes, this happens all the time.

Also, demons can’t do these sorts of things to Christians without their consent/cooperation. At some point, they have agreed to cooperation with evil spirits to dominate parts of their personalities. This contract can be revoked, but only if the person wants it revoked..and that’s only an option if they are even educated enough to realize that there is such a contract in effect to begin with. And guess what, many (I’d even say most) Christians don’t have that awareness. Hell, many of them don’t even really believe demons are real in the first place. And then some actually like their demons. This is the case with addictions. Well, a demon doesn’t have to leave if you want it there.

Now, the difference between a Christian suffering from demonic oppression and a non-Christian suffering from the same is that the Christian actually has options. If the Christian can come to the realization of the authority given to them by Christ, renounce any agreements they’ve made that allowed the demons access (break the contract), and then demand the demon to leave, it has no choice but to leave.

But it’s not over. They also have to maintain their deliverance from demons, or else they will come right back, often with greater force.

To maintain it, the person must take ownership and keep their mind in step with their spirit. It’s not necessarily easy, either. In a lot of ways it’s like learning to walk or ride a bike for the first time. You’re going to fall and get scrapes. But you keep getting up and doing it until you’ get it right.

I’ve had many experiences with this stuff personally, so you can believe me or not, but I’m telling you it’s is real.

For example, myself and my wife have had to deal with generational curses/oppression and breaking those off from us, on both sides of the family.

My first marriage was full of demonic problems.

Since I have taken ownership, learned about my authority over this stuff, worked hard at my part of my own sanctification, and then exercised that authority, I have freed myself from this crap. It has been a long road and I still have to fight to maintain it all, but it’s gotten easier.

My father, however, is struggling. Myself and some family cast some demonic entities off of him a few years back without telling him about it. We also didn’t tell my mother we did it. She called the next day and told me “something’s up with your dad, it’s like he’s a different person.” She knew nothing about what we had done. If I had any doubts before, they were removed with that phone call.

Now, because my dad has refused to break those agreements and own his deliverance, he still has these problems. They came back, in other words.

So, we can deliver him, but we can’t stop him from “liking” or “being comfortable” with having those demons in his life. Unless/until he decides to own his deliverance, he will continue to have those issues.

In any case, the good news is that at some point, you and I will both know whether or not I’m correct about these”aliens”.

As you watch all of this this unfold, just keep evaluating it the way that you would anyway (with an open mind and with discernment). Just keep what I’m telling you in the back of your mind as a possible explanation for it. And I’d say, learn more about there biblical story and the plan of God vs that of satan. I’m quite confident that the more you learn about it, you’ll see it as an increasingly stronger explanation for all of this stuff.

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Again, no matter what's your personal definition of "christian", again they aren't immune to demonic possession

Hence, why exorcists exist in the first place... That 15th century nun was pretty pious, didn't stop her from getting possessed apparently https://catholicsay.com/letter-from-the-devil-written-by-possessed-nun-translated/

Now for the consent part... Maybe acknowledging the existence of the demon in the first place can be construed as a form of consent, or at least a first step toward it... It's certainly anything but a denial of its very existence

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Acknowledging them doesn’t give them consent to do anything. Acknowledging their existence is the most fundamental step in being able to counter the problems they produce, actually.

Think about it. How can you possibly solve any problem if you are unaware of or unwilling to admit or consider that the root of that problem even exists? You can’t.

These things are no different.

Perfect example is my ex wife. Grew up “Christian”… but she gave consent by playing around with occult shit (somewhat habitually as I later discovered), and then consequently got her very own “invisible friend”. That’s a whole other story that I’m not going to go into because I’m not trying to write a book. But for the purpose of an example of giving consent, there ya go. Derek Prince has countless teachings on how people, even Christians, give such consent..often unwittingly…but sometimes just stupidly (they should know better).

Christians, be they actual ones or fake ones can, just like anyone else, open doors that the demonic can enter into.

But see, a mature Christian understands this and is thus careful not to open such doors in the first place..or at least if they do, recognize it quickly and fix the issue.

In any case, I don’t disagree with your main point, which is that a Christian can be demonically oppressed (or some would call it possession). But then for that to happen also necessarily means they are a nominal Christian at worst, or very uneducated about these matters at best…or perhaps they are quite versed on these things, but then upon realizing they have a demon problem, too scared to do anything about it. Because truth be told, it can be painful to deal with. In the end it’s better to get rid of them..but it’s like a bullet being lodged in you. It can hurt to dig it out and get rid of it, but it’s better to get rid of it than carry it around inside of you.

But again, an actual Christian has options to deal with these things, when no one else does. The demons don’t cower at the name of anyone else but that of Jesus.

If you don’t believe me, then go and try to cast one out with the name of Buddha, Allah, Muhammad, or any other name of your choice. Let me know how it goes haha.

Understand, the first miracle that put Jesus on the map was casting a demon out of a guy in the synagogue. Up until his arrival, there was no way to do it. It’s precisely why, in the Old Testament, God instructed the Israelites to stone people to death for certain sins..deliverance wasn’t available at that point. Not until Jesus came. And so the only way to keep that stuff from spreading throughout the tribes was to off the people who would otherwise spread it and turn everything into the “days of Noah” again.