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Friends of the young flight instructor who died in a plane crash in Virginia Thursday said her lifelong dream was to become a commercial pilot and called her a legend for working toward it. Viktoria Theresie Izabelle Ljungman, 23, died in the crash when an 18-year-old student pilot she was instructing pulled the small plane up at too steep an angle at takeoff — which caused the engine to stall and the aircraft to plummet from about 100 feet. “I remember when I first met her, that’s all she ever wanted to do. She wanted to be a commercial pilot,” Charlie Hudson, who played tennis with Ljungman at Hampton University, told the Daily Press.

The single-engine Cessna 172, carrying Ljungman, the student pilot Oluwagbohunmi Ayomide Oyebode and another unidentified 18-year-old student, crashed around 3 p.m. in a ditch at Newport News-Williamsburg Airport.

the student pilot Oluwagbohunmi Ayomide Oyebode

>Friends of the young flight instructor who died in a plane crash in Virginia Thursday said her lifelong dream was to become a commercial pilot and called her a legend for working toward it. Viktoria Theresie Izabelle Ljungman, 23, died in the crash when an 18-year-old student pilot she was instructing pulled the small plane up at too steep an angle at takeoff — which caused the engine to stall and the aircraft to plummet from about 100 feet. “I remember when I first met her, that’s all she ever wanted to do. She wanted to be a commercial pilot,” Charlie Hudson, who played tennis with Ljungman at Hampton University, told the Daily Press. >The single-engine Cessna 172, carrying Ljungman, the student pilot ***Oluwagbohunmi Ayomide Oyebode*** and another unidentified 18-year-old student, crashed around 3 p.m. in a ditch at Newport News-Williamsburg Airport. >#the student pilot ***Oluwagbohunmi Ayomide Oyebode***

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Hot and intelligent.

Another bloodline lost because of niggers.

Niggers don't belong in the sky or sea.

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Yup.

If it wasn't a real happening it would make a hilarious comedy bit though. A pilot instructor trying to tell someone speaking in clicks of their tongue not to pull back so hard.

That person who makes dystopian 4 panes should make one of this.

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pulling the throttle all the way back makes the plane fly harder

Probably that niggers thought process

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Well she probably said "ok now start pulling back" and he yeeted it.

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GPrime might cover this event.

If I didn't get banned again on Twitter I would DM him the idea.

intelligent

na, she should have rejected his nigger ass and not flown.

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IQ doesn't always protect a person from propaganda.

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Someone who can stall a cessna in a climb at 100 feet doesn't deserve to be on MS flight sim, nevermind in the cockpit.

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With a bit of incompetence it is surprisingly easy to do. Once the airspeed is "alive" you're basically only flying fast enough to stay off the ground but you're still in ground effect. This means once you get 1/2 the span of the wing above the ground you no longer have enough lift to climb. During this transition period you normally continue to fly within ground effect to continue to build speed to allow for your departure climb.

At around 65 mph a student need only pull hard after the airspeed comes alive. Your average male can easily over power a petite female if corrective action is attempted on the yoke.

"Airspeed alive." Pull back to climb past ground effect. Reach roughly 100 feet AGL. Stall. Unrecoverable. Fate is sealed. Dead. It's very simple.

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I think 's point was that the trainee should not have been behind the controls of the plane before showing at least some basic competence in a flight sim or something.

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Contrary to what you see in movies and TV, flight sims are rarely used. And when they are it's usually for advanced training like emergencies, IFR, and combat. In all cases the focus is pilot reaction to instrumentation or events rather than accuracy of the flight model. Additionally, simulators fly and feel nothing like the real thing. Not to mention feedback is also completely different except in the most expensive of simulators (usually several thousand dollars per hour).

Flight training is very much monkey see monkey do. The IP shows you how to do it. Usually over a series of introductory flights. As the student shows proficiency they are provided more opportunity to kill them (student and pilot). It's a high trust environment. As an example, my brother is a Longbow IP. A student was able to tail strike and total the aircraft faster than he could respond. These are students who have already passed basic, advanced, and complex aircraft training. Once he was able to responded he kept them alive. It's amazing they didn't end up in a fireball (pilot skill [landing within 1' of level] and self sealing tanks were the factors [fuel leaked everywhere]). But the crash was 100% sealed once the tail strike occurred. He has also trained some middle eastern "allies." Staving off death was literally an every day event.

Realistically, it's unlikely she should have been an IP. Even if she actually was qualified pairing her with someone physically stronger than her is a terrible mistake. If you can't overpower the student, or at least hold your own, your life is literally in the hands of the other person to not panic and perform rationally as shown - and release control of the aircraft in extremely stressful situations. A panic freeze is a killer situation if you can't overpower them.

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Your average male can easily over power a petite female if corrective action is attempted on the yoke.

That makes sense. I was wondering why she didn't just correct the mistake. It is another case of women in the workforce mixed with treating niggers like white people.

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What I don't understand is that the aircraft must have had L and R controls. A stall like that doesn't just happen. Why wasn't Ljungman immediately at the controls correcting the aircraft? Was she paying absolutely no attention to the aircraft? As the most senior pilot in the aircraft? Or was she unable to take control?

I understand they were low and this all happened very quickly in real-time. But I think its fair to expect a "competant" pilot to be able to easily identify the warning signs before a stall during takeoff can happen.

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That's a fair comment. Obviously I wasn't there. Much speculation on the behalf of my comment. My point was to explain just how easily this can happen using a plausible explanation. A pull through stall at low speeds and low altitude is basically a death sentence. Wing drops. You can't recover. Once you hit stall there is no recovery at that altitude. Departure and then arrival stalls are one of the more common causes of aviation fatalities. Even without student pilots. Altitude is what allows for stall and spin recovery.

Stall speed with full flaps is basically 50 mph. If he pulled back at 60 mph, that 10 mph bleed off can happen within a second or so. And it can take the pilot a second to recognize the danger. By the time she took positive control of the aircraft (assume the student didn't freeze, locking the controls), it's too late. Even if she immediately started stall recovery at this altitude, nose in is almost certain. At 100 AGL, I honestly don't see any other outcome as a possibility.

Maybe it played out differently? Maybe she froze? Maybe she wasn't paying attention at all? Regardless, it's far easier to happen than most people are aware.

While not a 172, in my aircraft, spins are not allowed. Entering a full spin requires > 9,000' AGL to recover. I offer this to point out, there are extremely dangerous flight profiles you simply don't enter because you will not exit that flight profile alive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen

She died because he entered a prohibited flight profile for her aircraft. She died because she was a bad pilot. While they made a big deal about how you can't recover from what killed her, that's literally why it's prohibited to enter such a flight profile. She died because she entered the prohibited flight profile and not because she couldn't recover. A fine but important distinction.

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I bet she was teaching the bonobo pro bono.

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Ongobongopongo. Not from Switzerland.

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Oogabooga Ayyomuhdick Oyeeboyyee

Also, think of the service performed by both of them being dead. Women shouldn’t pilot commercial jets - they’d just crash and kill the passengers. Niggers shouldn’t be alive - they’ll just rape and murder.

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It would be scary enough trying to teach a nigger how to drive a car.

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When I saw the name of the dumb nigger who crashed the plane, I laughed. Fresh out of Africa, probably. He probably thought the plane was held up by evil spirits.

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Maybe he thought it was supposed to fly like a helicopter.

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And likely as genuine a “teen” as Joe Biden.

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If she wanted to be a pilot then why didn't she train to do it herself? Why train a teenage nigger?

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Nigger got free money for education program probably. While she had to work and earn money for it. $50k to get commercial license. And from that you get first officer position on a crappy airline usually a partner for one of the big ones. And the pay is not even a living wage.

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Affirmative action makes me physically sick almost when I think about it. Because nignogs get free shit and diversity hires/grants and get it easy.. yet they still reeeeeee and demand reparations while committing over 50% of the countries crimes and they wonder why police are suspicious of them.

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The worst part is companies importing H-1B visa people with the intent to give them expensive training instead of someone who was born in the country and treat the visa like an indentured survitude agreement.

Then the companies get politicians to claim that there just aren't enough educated Americans to fill the positions and that colleges need more subsidies so that more Americans can receive the training they need to work the jobs.

The jobs the companies don't want to hire the Americans for because they can't hold firing them and deportation over the American employees heads.

So they wind up with American kids wasting years of their lives and getting saddled with debt going to colleges to compete with foreigners who are imported and paid to learn the skills on the job by the company.

And then the politicians turn around and gaslight the American people.

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Also see Sky King comment from someone above.

Yea the nigs get all the hand outs then waste it, so it's not available to the whites so they have to struggle to make it, making life harder for everyone else. It's a vicious cycle we're in, because the harder shit gets the more help the small hat tribe gives to the ooga booga click clack tribe.

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She probably crashed the plane trying to keep them off her. Pilot rape, not pilot error.

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I guarantee the nog hasn't even tried a flight simulator, hell even a video game, before doing this

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Or ground school

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Perhaps this information could shed more light on the capacity of the student.

Go to-https://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch//processDisclaimer.jis

Type in the student's name. See if you can make heads or tails of the guardianship court case mentioned involving the student. Look at the names of all the involved parties and their attorneys.

In reply to some of the other comments in this thread- Training other new pilots is a common way to build flying hours in the hopes of becoming an airline pilot. It is all about hours in the air and experience. It is expensive to fly; so you want to build hours by having someone else pay you to fly and build your hours.

The difference between over rotation and really over rotation in a takeoff scenario with three people on board a C172 is probably a few degrees. An instructor pilot allows some latitude as a student "finds their way" and will allow a student to get into a little bit of a difficult situation as a learning experience; this is common in any field. Now if the student "locks up" or "freaks out" that's another story. Consider this scenarioThink of two equally matched people physically; both in size and strength; they are the student and instructor. To climb out with the dual control C172 both the pilot (student in left seat) and instructor (pilot in command in right seat) are setting the same in relation to the essentially identical control yolks. The student over rotates because he pulls back too far and too hard on the yolk. The instructor had their hand (really only need one to fly comfortably; the other should be covering the throttle quadrant) on the yolk. The student already had both hands on the yolk and after making a mistake locks up and instinctively pulls back into their self; they pull as hard as they can with both arms and hands while grasping the yolk (student is doing a dumbbell curl.) The instructor's yolk is now back in their chest; they have to instantly place both hands on the yolk and push away (bench press with the bar right on their chest.) In this scenario with a panicked student and two equally strong people trying to control the yolk the one pulling will overpower the one pushing.

Now lets go one further The boar in the left seat even if equal in weight and stature has muscles that are comprised of different cell types and performance capability than the sow in the right seat. And of course if the boar outweighs the sow and has all the other expected elements of stature by comparison the sow had no chance of overpowering the boar.

I am not even going to get into everything the rest of us presume about the conflicts of the races. This accident was sealed within one or two seconds of the boar pulling on that yolk.

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Also depending on the scenario all the boar needed to do was let go. If you fuckup, you let go and the plane will fix itself, or the instructor can if they let you really fuckup.

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