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I've spent the past week reading, listening and watching anything I can on White identity (in the mainstream). In near every piece White supremacy is mentioned within the first few sentences. In the remainder of the cases - the focal point is White hate groups. This is discouraging and makes it impossible for us to have a productive conversation regarding White identity.

I am working to sever that conflation so we can have healthy dialogue about the interests of Whites and our beautiful identity - and crack open that Overton window for the sake of the future of my White son.

Please help me protect the interest of Whites and secure a healthy future for our children.

I've spent the past week reading, listening and watching anything I can on White identity (in the mainstream). In near every piece White supremacy is mentioned within the first few sentences. In the remainder of the cases - the focal point is White hate groups. This is discouraging and makes it impossible for us to have a productive conversation regarding White identity. I am working to sever that conflation so we can have healthy dialogue about the interests of Whites and our beautiful identity - and crack open that Overton window for the sake of the future of my White son. Please help me protect the interest of Whites and secure a healthy future for our children.

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Thing is, what is meant by "white supremacy"? Most whites understand "KKK-Neo-nazis-Aryan-Brotherhood-kill-'em-all-ovens-gas-chamber-and-shit!" an ideology essentially

But, literally speaking, white supremacy can be understood in terms of numbers/situational monopoly and just that. White supremacy as in overwhelming majority of whites. It's the condition of being de facto superior, "supreme", unchallenged, as in "air supremacy", there's a notion of monopoly

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/supremacy

​a position in which you have more power, authority or status than anyone else

So if there's an overwhelming majority of whites in a democratic country... It goes without saying that they potentially have de facto more influence decisional/political power from which is derived authority and status

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Where I'm getting at is this; All those talks about white supremacy from the left, don't make much sense if you understand "white supremacy" as ideology. However, if you understand it as "white majority" yeah it makes sense, it's more of the same so called white genocide agenda. White supremacy for the left is code word for white majority.

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I disagree there is an overwhelming majority of Whites. That is false globally. In certain nations that is true but it is quickly becoming not true.

In regard to holding more power, I also disagree. Unless you consider jews White.

I see what you are saying with how the left sees it - but I've seen them refer to White supremacy as both White majority and a White toxic mindset that marginalizes everyone else. Either way, we should be able to talk about White identity without the concept of supremacy, which makes it easier to discredit the movement in our current landscape. This thread is a bit discouraging for me.

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>I disagree there is an overwhelming majority of Whites. That is false globally. In certain nations that is true but it is quickly becoming not true.

I've never said there's an actual overwhelming majority of whites.

>In regard to holding more power, I also disagree. Unless you consider jews White.

Read again, ask yourself why I choose to use the word "potentially", as in potential

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Just got back from morning exercise, was trying to respond every 2 minutes while I whipped up breakfast for the family. Apologies on misreading you - that's my bad. I just re-read it with a bit more focus, thanks for being polite about my mistake.

>So if there's an overwhelming majority of whites in a democratic country... It goes without saying that they potentially have de facto more influence decisional/political power from which is derived authority and status

Completely agreed but I don't see this in many White majority nations. To me, it feels like Whites hold the least amount of influence from a demographic perspective than other races.

You bring up really good points. My main goal with this post was to help make ground on being able to talk about White identity (our contributions, our fears, our dreams and our challenges). I have found it often gets lost when people bring in other terms like supremacy - which does not need to be part of a conversation of White identity.