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I've spent the past week reading, listening and watching anything I can on White identity (in the mainstream). In near every piece White supremacy is mentioned within the first few sentences. In the remainder of the cases - the focal point is White hate groups. This is discouraging and makes it impossible for us to have a productive conversation regarding White identity.

I am working to sever that conflation so we can have healthy dialogue about the interests of Whites and our beautiful identity - and crack open that Overton window for the sake of the future of my White son.

Please help me protect the interest of Whites and secure a healthy future for our children.

I've spent the past week reading, listening and watching anything I can on White identity (in the mainstream). In near every piece White supremacy is mentioned within the first few sentences. In the remainder of the cases - the focal point is White hate groups. This is discouraging and makes it impossible for us to have a productive conversation regarding White identity. I am working to sever that conflation so we can have healthy dialogue about the interests of Whites and our beautiful identity - and crack open that Overton window for the sake of the future of my White son. Please help me protect the interest of Whites and secure a healthy future for our children.

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[–] [deleted] • 11 pts

White identity is nice but as so as you start to objectivly compare all the races it quickly becomes supremacy.

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My mission is not to compare and determine which is better - my mission is to secure a fruitful future for my White son.

If you get caught up in other stuff, I believe you are doing their work and hurting the movement.

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The majority of whites avoiding the obvious hurts our movement.

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What is our movement you refer to? I'd like to better understand so I can help represent White identity better.

Here is my take on that:

You can feel good about yourself, or you can protect your people. If you believe White's are superior, you should be smart enough to know what battle is worth fighting. Keep fighting that battle and keep hurting the future for White's? Or transcend it to help protect White identity from erosion and marginalization.

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Do you think it's in your son's best interest to live in a country where non-whites are allowed an equal or greater say in his future?

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That is a great question.

It is in my son's best interest to be able to have a say at all. The way things are going - this is quickly being stripped of him.

In regard to non-Whites and their say; I believe everyone should have an equal say. On that note, I believe it is in my son's best interest to live in a majority White nation. The way things are going - this is quickly being stripped of him.

Ensuring Whites are able to communicate their perspective, insecurities, successes and everything in between is important for me. I believe the first step is to gain ground on that front.

Please let me know what you think and how I can improve my thought process. I appreciate your engagement!

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Is there a place where whites are afforded the most opportunities besides the Third Reich?

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>White Identity is not White Supremacy

Why not? Why isn't White identity allowed to be White supremacy?

Whites are inventive and creative. But no one is allowed to say it because the other races aren't? Because saying it means that Whites can do more and achieve things that others can't?

Yes, it's true, chinks are scientifically proven to be incapable of empathy. Does that make them bad or evil? Not necessarily. It means they're different. They do bad and evil things not by choice, but because their brains are wired that way.

Whites are capable of empathy and kindness. You are allowed to say that. You are allowed to teach your kids that.

Niggers are incapable of emotional control. They don't choose to be violent, they just are. It's the way they evolved; it's the way God made them.

You're allowed to say that Whites are capable of emotional control even though others aren't.

Also (maybe I should have said this first) - Winter is cold, summer is hot. How did we come to that conclusion? Because we compared the two. Summer is hotter than winter. Winter is colder than summer.

The White race is kind, creative, intelligent. The only way that can be is if there are people who are less kind, less creative, and less intelligent.

Whites built this, achieved that. Are those good things? If they are good, then they're good in comparison to other things.

If there is only one temperature, then things are neither hot or cold. In order for there to be hot things, there need to be things that are colder. If something is good, then it is good because it's better than other things.

To say that Whites are creative, kind, and intelligent, to say that Whites achieved this and accomplished that, is saying that Whites are superior.

Again - To say something is hot, is saying it is hotter than other things. To say someone is kind, is saying that they are kinder than others. To say Whites have any positive attributes is saying that Whites are superior to others.

You are allowed to teach your kids to be proud that they are superior.

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Chinks are capable of empathy.

Edit: I’m curious to see these studies you refer to, though.

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Chinks are capable of empathy.

Chinks are capable of acting empathetic. But they are incapable of feeling empathy. - There is a difference.

A year or 2 ago, I'd search "Asian empathy study" or "are Asians incapable of empathy" and I'd get hundreds of results. Now it looks like they're trying to memory hole any studies that are "racist".

And here's a quote from it -

>For example when asked about a recent road death in which a taxi passenger opened a door to exit and killed a bicyclist who was trying to pass on the inside of the traffic. Most replied the cyclist should have been more careful. When asked how the passenger felt do you think at killing the cyclist - most replied I have no idea. When Westerners were asked the same question almost all replied the passenger would feel, scared, guilty, fearful of consequences and sorry about the victim. When this was pointed out to the Chinese respondent - they often shrugged their shoulders and replied how would you know this?

Another - (Poal blocks this site for some reason, so replace the dot. It's safe.) - amren (dot) com/news/2014/09/affective-empathy-an-evolutionary-mistake/ - Or just read the quote -

In short, the Chinese participants could see things from another person’s perspective and understand how that person felt. There is much less indication, however, that they involuntarily experienced the feelings of other people, especially feelings of distress. This is not to say they were incapable of such emotion transference, but rather that it seems limited in scope, perhaps being confined to family members and not extended to strangers.

In general, empathy is perceived in China as a moral duty and not as an involuntary emotional response.

Again, chinks can act empathetic, but not feel empathy.

In the past I've seen studies where they observe what toddlers do when they play videos of other kids crying, or a video of another kid having a toy taken from them and that kid starts bawling. White toddlers will empathise with them and cry too. While Asian kids act indifferent. The Asian kids can't picture themselves in the other kid's shoes.

I've seen some studies cite The Great Chinese Famine "which is widely regarded as the deadliest famine and one of the greatest man-made disasters in human history". They pretty much claim that any and all chinks that were capable of empathy, died in the famine. And now all the chinks are descendants of people incapable of empathy.

I found a comment on old Voat where a user goes on a rant. Before I give you the link - If you scroll past all the videos, they eventually get to studies on prefrontal cortex size and stuff, and they also link to one of the studies I linked above. But you probably want to skip the videos. - But the way chinks treat animals is also a very strong argument that shows that chinks are incapable of feeling empathy.

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Very insightful comment! Thank you!! Would you perhaps argue that Tibetan Monks might be an exception? Is this also part of the reason that Japs disliked the Chinese so much? I get the sense that Japanese people are quite empathetic. This would make sense when you see the amount of art like manga, anime, video games and music they have produced as such a small population compared to the Chinese, which are considerably much larger as a population yet have been completely dwarfed by the Japanese in creative output.

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I appreciate your thought out response - but what does this do to help ensure a fruitful future for White's?

You can feel good about yourself, or you can protect your people.

If you believe White's are superior, you should be smart enough to know what battle is worth fighting. Keep fighting that battle and keep hurting the future for White's? Or transcend it to help protect White identity from erosion and marginalization.

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but what does this do to help ensure a fruitful future for White's?

  • It counters the "Whites are evil, and all White children should be ashamed of themselves and their race" narrative.

  • It unites Whites by explaining to them the we are different. That no one else in the world is like us.

  • It protects Whites by teaching them that we are special, and worth protecting. And that no one else is looking out for us. That only other Whites are looking out for our best interests. That others only see us as people they can take advantage of.

  • Most importantly, it helps Whites to realise that our brains evolved to be as different as our skin color. Or some say, God made our brains as different as our skin color.

It's human nature to believe that others will act the same way as us when put into any situation. But that is not true. Our brains are wired differently.

Do you riot and loot just because you can get away with it? Do you fly into a murderous rage just because you heard a bad word? Our brains are different. You son NEEDS to realise that.

When your son gets old enough, they might meet a cute sweet chink. Your son needs to understand that her brain is incapable of feeling love. That his value to her will be based off of how much she can take advantage of him.

Your son needs to know that a nigger can act like his friend one minute and then fly into a murderous rage the next for no reason at all. And that risk grows exponentially by how many other niggers are around.

In the end - Our race needs to unite, and protect itself. No one else will. The world your son lives in will literally be colored people vs Whites. Every aspect of his life will be divided into colored people vs Whites. They are united against us. And they are fighting to keep us weak, to keep us from uniting and fighting back.

We need to unite. For the sake of your son, we need to unite. And we need to act strong. We need to show that we are superior. That if anyone messes with your son, they will face the wrath of our entire superior race.

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Whites don't need to be superior to have the right to exist.

They know that we know that they wlare attempting to exterminate us. Anti white supremacy is simply preemptive attacks to prevent self defense.

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The first line you write is exactly what I am trying to communicate, thanks for that.

My action here is an indicator that I feel there is coordination in hindering Whites future and ultimately existence. Smearing efforts to advocate for Whites through these tough times is easier done when people harp on concepts like supremacy.

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Turn off the jew tube

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Was a big hooktube fan but no more. If you notice, I usually download videos and upload to the blog - feel free to check it out!

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The only groups that actively pushes the idea that they are the superior beings in this whole universe are the jewish ones, yet they accuse everyone else of doing that. Funny how that works.

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I agree with you the projectionism is real. Please feel free to read my blog post (linked in this post), I cover this.

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This is great - thanks for linking this. Mind if I crosspost?

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Thing is, what is meant by "white supremacy"? Most whites understand "KKK-Neo-nazis-Aryan-Brotherhood-kill-'em-all-ovens-gas-chamber-and-shit!" an ideology essentially

But, literally speaking, white supremacy can be understood in terms of numbers/situational monopoly and just that. White supremacy as in overwhelming majority of whites. It's the condition of being de facto superior, "supreme", unchallenged, as in "air supremacy", there's a notion of monopoly

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/supremacy

​a position in which you have more power, authority or status than anyone else

So if there's an overwhelming majority of whites in a democratic country... It goes without saying that they potentially have de facto more influence decisional/political power from which is derived authority and status

...

Where I'm getting at is this; All those talks about white supremacy from the left, don't make much sense if you understand "white supremacy" as ideology. However, if you understand it as "white majority" yeah it makes sense, it's more of the same so called white genocide agenda. White supremacy for the left is code word for white majority.

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I disagree there is an overwhelming majority of Whites. That is false globally. In certain nations that is true but it is quickly becoming not true.

In regard to holding more power, I also disagree. Unless you consider jews White.

I see what you are saying with how the left sees it - but I've seen them refer to White supremacy as both White majority and a White toxic mindset that marginalizes everyone else. Either way, we should be able to talk about White identity without the concept of supremacy, which makes it easier to discredit the movement in our current landscape. This thread is a bit discouraging for me.

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>I disagree there is an overwhelming majority of Whites. That is false globally. In certain nations that is true but it is quickly becoming not true.

I've never said there's an actual overwhelming majority of whites.

>In regard to holding more power, I also disagree. Unless you consider jews White.

Read again, ask yourself why I choose to use the word "potentially", as in potential

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Just got back from morning exercise, was trying to respond every 2 minutes while I whipped up breakfast for the family. Apologies on misreading you - that's my bad. I just re-read it with a bit more focus, thanks for being polite about my mistake.

>So if there's an overwhelming majority of whites in a democratic country... It goes without saying that they potentially have de facto more influence decisional/political power from which is derived authority and status

Completely agreed but I don't see this in many White majority nations. To me, it feels like Whites hold the least amount of influence from a demographic perspective than other races.

You bring up really good points. My main goal with this post was to help make ground on being able to talk about White identity (our contributions, our fears, our dreams and our challenges). I have found it often gets lost when people bring in other terms like supremacy - which does not need to be part of a conversation of White identity.

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Actually I believe the correct phrase is White Preservationist.

Its the most accurate and has the true benevolence of the intent more accurately conveyed.

People are simply trying to preserve the culture and intelligence of the people who civilized most of the world and brought the most prosperity to the most people. The world was a savage place of poverty and starvation before the white colonization.

With the possible exception of some Asian areas.

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This whole concept of preservation is new to me, but sounds spot on. I don't know implications (defined by them) of the term yet but it sounds like that is my goal with my Whitefatherhood blog. Thanks for helping to inform me.

In regard to why I am trying to preserve. It has more to do with ensuring my spawn have a world where they can thrive. I'd love to have a long conversation about history and different cultures contributions but I fear that will distract from my main mission of moving forward - which I believe is a fairly White thing to do. I don't need to dwell on the past as much as other groups, I need to secure a future for my children.

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It is good that you are interested in the details of your terms. But you should also be aware, that at the moment, the left, POCs etc... are not interested in academic arguments.

So while being a good teacher is important, it is also good to remember that the only answer to someone using violence against you is violent self defense. Right now, just not hating yourself will get you called a supremacist with the overtone of intending to make it mean justification of subjugation of any other race.

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The whole landscape is dishonest. You are right they are not interested in academic arguments. That is why I am going from a different angle.

A sincere and genuine angle of wanting to promote and ensure a positive White identity so my son can have a future that isn't working against him. (That's a mouthful, sorry, a bit tired this AM).

In regard to self-defense, I agree. This is important. I am working to advocate for the second amendment rights and physical health as part of this mission.

>Right now, just not hating yourself will get you called a supremacist with the overtone of intending to make it mean justification of subjugation of any other race.

This is why I am working to promote a concept of White identity without White supremacy.

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Oh cool - I was not aware of this. Thank you for putting this on my radar!

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If Whites were not supreme, the term 'White supremacy' would not exist.

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What does this do to help ensure a fruitful future for White's?

You can feel good about yourself, or you can protect your people.

If you believe White's are superior, you should be smart enough to know what battle is worth fighting. Keep fighting that battle and keep hurting the future for White's? Or transcend it to help protect White identity from erosion and marginalization.

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You can feel good about yourself

UNLIKELY.

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Sorry for that. Keep on trucking along - and if you can help me on my mission I appreciate it.

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If you deny that we are in the position we are in, in comparison to other groups, because we chose to be uniquely evil in a 'world of innocence', then they will say you are a "white supremacist". This is the reality of their ultimatum. If you do not go along with white genocide or abide by and engage in anti-white systems, you will be declared as a "white supremacist." It isn't even good enough to be passively apathetic about it, you have to be noticeably zealous in your efforts towards these ends. You will never be allowed to have this 'healthy dialogue about the interests of Whites' because that is antithetical to their attempts to utterly eradicate all white people.

I would say that everyone is a product of their ancestors choices, desires and habits. Millenia of isolation has forged into easily recognisably distinct groups. Our bones, our hair structure, our melanin levels, our dietary & hormonal systems, even our neurological capacities have all drastically diverged. A people forged from thousands of years of bad breeding habits like incest is not going to be the same calibre of people as those that at least, generally, tried to avoid such things. This means there is no equality amongst comparisons between collectives, just as there is no equality in individuals- Equality isn't even a myth, it is a manipulative lie that has been perpetuated by the envious & malicious.

In this struggle for existence vs extermination, at least consider fighting for your own side, the people that you were born into, not some self-destructive lunacy or idealism. People are simply conditioned, through repetition, fiction, and overlooking the atrocities of other groups, to believe that white people are uniquely evil, especially in specific ways. And because they're white, they are pathologically altruistic, which means that believing such a thing about themselves and where they came from is likely what motivates them to be self-destructive... they're brainwashed, and it's pathetic.

https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/08/08/what-is-white-a-guide-for-complete-novices/ https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2021/08/21/race-science-infographics-archive-biology-genetics-anthropology-etc/

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