>>Probably really started to roll when the Soviet Union broke up, and was gasoline on a fire as we shipped our manufacturing to China. No, it's the moral bankruptcy combined to wokism that is the true deal breaker (read, all the bombings to democracy, all the fuckeries you can think of in terms of .gov whipping his ass with the constitution 24/7/365 trampling on every single principle it's supposed to stand for, the child trafficking pedo stuffs pandemics, the fake everything if you will). It's captain america becoming somekind of nigger rapist crack addict right before your eyes, it has barely anything to do with jobs and soviet union going to shit, it's deeper than that. Simply put, shitty system for shitty system, the american system was still superior to the chinese one for instance, because of freedom of speech to begin with. But today? ... Yeah in theory it's supposed to be better... But there are rooms for doubt now.... Tells you everything you need to know, this was unthinkable decades ago Take the american soft power of the 90s, action movies with moral heroes etc, like rocky or rambo or whatever. Today, it's no longer possible to sell america as such, it's too far gone. I mean imagine a movie where the entire galaxy speaks spanish, well same deal, it's not even remotely believable, america is anything but "standing for what's right", it's corrupt as fuck, and it's showing. That's the real turn off for anyone looking from the outside, not something you can get behind America is no longer a model, I mean I would be offered a plane ticket to visit I would pass, because I have good reasons to be paranoid